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Deirdre
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone object to my moving this thread back out to CHAT?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:56 pm    Post subject: You're brilliant Reply with quote

Guess that answers my question. I was pretty sure I wasn't going to fax the contract, but email this AM from Mr. Prettyman & the comments here have decided me. I like your email DB, direct & to the point.

I won't go into the way they treat talent, or their audition policy, or the way they book--although I could if cranky enough.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pshaw lieutenant governor! watch out for ascension--it happened here (utah) twice in recent years and, well, you may remember howard dean? who became governor of vermont when richard snelling dropped dead?

anyhoo, if you move it to chat, try this handy mouth exercise:

STOO-dee-oh center stoo-DEE-oh center stoo-dee-OH center
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All's I know is that I hadn't thought about SC in a while so decided to go to their website and poke around, but I keep getting timeout errors. Anybody else have that problem?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the website said something bad about them and they put it in a timeout.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deebs, thanks for sharing this. It is simply amazing. Who do they think they are? And they want new business? Slavery went out of fashion years ago.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I learned about this while browsing Facebook a few minutes ago.

What you all say...I agree. Smile

WOW!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got wind of this from Facebook as well. You definitely did the right thing DB. Cut 'em loose and move on!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You go, Girl! I just cut myself free from a place that wasn't doing anything but spewing tall tales. Not as bad as what you had to read but the point is that these choices have to be made and I'm not looking back.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregAllen wrote:
Who do they think they are?

I asked that very same question: http://voice-overload.com/?p=110
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got a phone call from Studio Center confirming my address so they can send the termination paperwork. No "Thanks so much" or "Sorry you're leaving" or "Could we have done anything better?" Douches.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you ask for it to be sent pre-shredded to save you time?
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Deirdre
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh.
I got the same call.

I wonder how many (if any) other people are bailing as a result of this letter?
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ChrisMezzolesta
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'll bite.

Money spent as a result of an interest bite from SC (getting ISDN, codec, building booth, Neumann, new interfaces n preamps, studio furniture, booth PC, LCD and audio monitors, etcetcetc) - probably about $15,000.

Auditions since getting on the roster (union only, since I opted to have a life), 2.

Auditions in the last 6 months, gigs booked and money earned: you take a guess.

Biggest bait & switch and I fell for it. Luckily I was planning to do a lot of this anyway, and even more luckily I had already earned the funds to do it so I did not go into debt, amazingly, but talk about a huge "dish of ointment" (as UK comedians The Two Ronnies would say). I also heard from other talent on the roster that they have a rate card for the non-union stuff, rather than paying going market rates, not sure how accurate that is, but if so, good grief!! And WTF!

Only thing I can think to think is, it's at least not costing me anything else to belong to this thing. I guess it really does reflect a sad state for VOs, since those holding the purse strings in many cases really are out for themselves and the clients, at the expense of the VOs who make their incomes possible. (and I lump others into that category too including some of the P2Ps who foster a lowball climate).

I don't mean to make this forum "Son of Savvy", but it's about time someone out there really showed us VOs some love...Perhaps the newer and hungrier casting places are the ones who are gonna make it happen for us. I just booked a national cable spot thru a VO-run firm that's only been live for like 2 months! And thru a "warehouse"-oriented one I seem to have gained a repeat client! So it's not all bad, but for SC to claim so much and fall flat, then issue such an edict, ain't so good for PR.

As evidence by this thread. Wh----Uh Oh! The Lt Gov is here! Wait!! No- - -AARRRRrrgghhhh - - -They're coming to take me away, ha-haaaaaaa!.....
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kitstern
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what it has been like to be on SC's non-union roster. All auditions are due by 4 PM Eastern the same day--which is sometimes a problem for us West coasters. I asked several times to have my contact number changed so the schedulers would call me at my studio number during the day--never happened. They have a 24-7 policy for auditions & jobs, so they once booked me for a job at 6 AM at their LA studio (to add to the insult, I was on vacation). I asked them to please reschedule to a more reasonable time as the studio was a 20-minute taxi ride from my hotel--it was a major, major problem. I could go on--but why?

When I signed with SC I was newer to the business, and since then I've been asked to join other VO rosters. What a difference. I've discovered SC doesn't treat its VO talent with respect--and other rosters do. The other rosters I work with foster the idea that each job is a collaboration between the client, the talent, & the engineer. Everyone is respected, from the audition process to getting paid. It's a completely different atmosphere to work in.

Things are unsettled now, but I think we'll have plenty of work in the future when they figure out how advertising & TV is going to look. I guess places like SC will find their niche--but I hope not. Good riddance.
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