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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
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Bruce Boardmeister
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe not. This was not widely publicized... only to people of the SAG Foundation mail list maybe? I found out from a friend just a couple of days ago. I helped her record her audition piece, and.......
The reason they've extended the deadline??? Their website is broken and not accepting audition files. Their help line voicemail box is full and not taking messages, and they're not responding to emails within.... well, it's been 28 hours now since I wrote them on her behalf.
Audible does NOT have their act together!
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ConnieTerwilliger Triple G
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Kristin Lennox Flight Attendant
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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ConnieTerwilliger wrote: | And why is it an unspecified rate? |
But they did specify -- "lucrative".
_________________ Always look on the bright side of life.
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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I dunno why they're doing it this way.
1) it's not limited to SAG AFTRA people. A bunch of narrators have been offered this 13 week contract, including myself (I turned it down).
2) When I was offered the gig, you had to produce 15 hours of finished audio per week. I think they might have dropped it to 10.
3) The rate was about $30k for 15 hours. Not sure what the 10 hour rate is. _________________ Jeff
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todd ellis A Zillion
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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30k is a lotta dough - but that schedule is brutal! _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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Kristin Lennox Flight Attendant
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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So -- $2000 pfh...? That's certainly a lot higher than the typical audiobook rates I've been hearing. _________________ Always look on the bright side of life.
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melissa eX MMD
Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 2783 Location: Lower Manhattan, New Amsterdam, the original NYC
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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30K for 15 finished hours per week for 13 weeks. 195 hours. Works out to be roughly 25% less than the normal SAG-AFTRA Audible rate. Volume discount I guess? I also turned it down. Don't know the specifics on this particular one- but it's probably similar.
This is attractive to union talent who haven't been making enough union money to get health insurance. One 13 contract gets you and your family covered for health insurance - and contributions also go into your retirement fund. |
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Im continually seeing this reinforced: audiobook narrators are not the same as voice talent or voice over people. They don't generally do commercials or elearning. At least not a lot. The major audiobook narrators generally only do audiobooks. This is why the contract might be a no brainer for some narrators (much like joining the union, but I digress). But for me, I would have to say goodbye to almost all of my clients for 13 weeks in order to take on a contract like this. 3 hours of finished audio every day? That's crazy. And god forbid you miss an hour on a day and have to make it up with 4 hours the next.
That's.... That's a JOB! Who the hell wants one of those? _________________ Jeff
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whalewtchr Cinquecento
Joined: 18 Feb 2010 Posts: 582 Location: Savannah, GA
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:05 am Post subject: |
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The 15 hour per week rate is tiered.
Narrators with less than 8 books (self recorded)
More than 8 but fewer than 12; then it goes to more than 12 fewer than 60 (30k) + 12% P&H or 33,600 and finally for those who have 60+ audiobooks completed, they receive the highest rate.
If you are union then it is a convenient way to get to the P&H minimums, if you can produce the hours. I believe they have pro-rated deals at 14, 13, 12, 11 and 10 pfh per week, however, my info is second hand. Maybe someone in the union can elaborate better. _________________ jonahcummings |
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Frank F Fat, Old, and Sassy
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Thirty thousand dollars divided by 195 finished hours equals (approximately) $185.00. Fifteen finished hours per week equals $2775.00.
One hundred eighty five (dollars) divided by five hours (recoding and editing) equals $37.00 per hour. And that is if you are fast at editing.
Three hours per day per finished hour actually means at least an eight hour day.
I finished three and a half hours of work for a network TV show this afternoon and earned a bit less about half the total contract fee for this audiobook project. Which way ya' gonna go?
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:50 am Post subject: |
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Your final question, Frank, assumes we have the opportunity to do the TV show. By that logic, you shouldn't even take that gig, because somewhere, someone is getting $20 million to star in a movie. _________________ Jeff
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Bruce Boardmeister
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:53 am Post subject: |
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JeffreyKafer wrote: | ..... because somewhere, someone is getting $20 million to star in a movie. |
I would like to resemble that remark....
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Kristin Lennox Flight Attendant
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:12 am Post subject: |
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melissa eX wrote: | 30K for 15 finished hours per week for 13 weeks. 195 hours. |
Ah. I obviously missed the 13-week part.
I couldn't figure out why people were turning down $2000 pfh. _________________ Always look on the bright side of life.
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bobbinbeamo M&M
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:19 am Post subject: |
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I also turned it down. I didn't feel that with everything I have going on that I could come close to fulfilling that kind of expected schedule. I have a friend who's been doing it since this rolled out and it IS RIGOROUS. You really can't be doing practically anything else, and you're pretty much toast unless you hire an editor. _________________ Bobbin Beam
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