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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: SAG - Audible Reply with quote

http://www.sagfoundation.org/content/audible-contract-opportunity

Has this been posted here?

Don't want to be redundant.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe not. This was not widely publicized... only to people of the SAG Foundation mail list maybe? I found out from a friend just a couple of days ago. I helped her record her audition piece, and.......

The reason they've extended the deadline??? Their website is broken and not accepting audition files. Their help line voicemail box is full and not taking messages, and they're not responding to emails within.... well, it's been 28 hours now since I wrote them on her behalf.

Audible does NOT have their act together!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And why is it an unspecified rate?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ConnieTerwilliger wrote:
And why is it an unspecified rate?


But they did specify -- "lucrative".

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno why they're doing it this way.

1) it's not limited to SAG AFTRA people. A bunch of narrators have been offered this 13 week contract, including myself (I turned it down).
2) When I was offered the gig, you had to produce 15 hours of finished audio per week. I think they might have dropped it to 10.
3) The rate was about $30k for 15 hours. Not sure what the 10 hour rate is.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30k is a lotta dough - but that schedule is brutal!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So -- $2000 pfh...? That's certainly a lot higher than the typical audiobook rates I've been hearing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30K for 15 finished hours per week for 13 weeks. 195 hours. Works out to be roughly 25% less than the normal SAG-AFTRA Audible rate. Volume discount I guess? I also turned it down. Don't know the specifics on this particular one- but it's probably similar.
This is attractive to union talent who haven't been making enough union money to get health insurance. One 13 contract gets you and your family covered for health insurance - and contributions also go into your retirement fund.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im continually seeing this reinforced: audiobook narrators are not the same as voice talent or voice over people. They don't generally do commercials or elearning. At least not a lot. The major audiobook narrators generally only do audiobooks. This is why the contract might be a no brainer for some narrators (much like joining the union, but I digress). But for me, I would have to say goodbye to almost all of my clients for 13 weeks in order to take on a contract like this. 3 hours of finished audio every day? That's crazy. And god forbid you miss an hour on a day and have to make it up with 4 hours the next.

That's.... That's a JOB! Who the hell wants one of those?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 15 hour per week rate is tiered.
Narrators with less than 8 books (self recorded)
More than 8 but fewer than 12; then it goes to more than 12 fewer than 60 (30k) + 12% P&H or 33,600 and finally for those who have 60+ audiobooks completed, they receive the highest rate.

If you are union then it is a convenient way to get to the P&H minimums, if you can produce the hours. I believe they have pro-rated deals at 14, 13, 12, 11 and 10 pfh per week, however, my info is second hand. Maybe someone in the union can elaborate better.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thirty thousand dollars divided by 195 finished hours equals (approximately) $185.00. Fifteen finished hours per week equals $2775.00.

One hundred eighty five (dollars) divided by five hours (recoding and editing) equals $37.00 per hour. And that is if you are fast at editing.

Three hours per day per finished hour actually means at least an eight hour day.

I finished three and a half hours of work for a network TV show this afternoon and earned a bit less about half the total contract fee for this audiobook project. Which way ya' gonna go?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your final question, Frank, assumes we have the opportunity to do the TV show. By that logic, you shouldn't even take that gig, because somewhere, someone is getting $20 million to star in a movie.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffreyKafer wrote:
..... because somewhere, someone is getting $20 million to star in a movie.


I would like to resemble that remark....


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

melissa eX wrote:
30K for 15 finished hours per week for 13 weeks. 195 hours.


Ah. I obviously missed the 13-week part.

I couldn't figure out why people were turning down $2000 pfh. Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also turned it down. I didn't feel that with everything I have going on that I could come close to fulfilling that kind of expected schedule. I have a friend who's been doing it since this rolled out and it IS RIGOROUS. You really can't be doing practically anything else, and you're pretty much toast unless you hire an editor.
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