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jrodriguez315 A Hundred Dozen

Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: New Jersey
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Mike Cooper Contributor

Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 42 Location: Asheville, NC
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:10 am Post subject: |
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I have three words for you, and unfortunately they're "Dick van Dyke".
She certainly has a lot to say for herself, but none of it sounds like anyone I've ever heard anywhere on this island, sorry. Which is a shame, because she's trying really hard.
The problem with doing "a British accent" is that there isn't one. For a country this size, we have an astonishing breadth of accent and - equally important, dialect: even within England itself, someone from Manchester sounds utterly different to someone from Birmingham. Someone from London sounds totally foreign compared to someone from Newcastle, and so on. Then again, many would argue that it's the "Geordie" who sounds like the foreigner…
An example: I grew up in the West Midlands, where dialect is as strong as the accent that comes with it. "How are you doing?", when addressed to a friend, comes out broadly as: "Owm yer gooin arr bab?" The latter is indisputably British – in fact it can probably trace itself back to the Anglo Saxons much better than "I say, good fellow, could you spare the time?" – but very few people would understand me. And the interesting thing is that these accents and dialects are enjoying something of a resurgence, rather than dying out in the multimedia world as was predicted.
The closest thing you're going to get to a generic "British accent" is "RP" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_pronunciation), and that's generally thought of as very colonial/public school (in the British sense of "public school") and dated in the UK. Even the BBC World Service doesn't favour it anymore (listen to the BBC news bulletin on my website and you might be surprised!) Overseas people will still recognise RP as "British", but it really depends on your market, and it's unlikely to make you sound cool or "street" (innit?)
Then again, if your market can't tell the difference then does it really matter? After all, people have been getting away with "pseudo-accents" for years that no one would recognise as completely correct (viz Daphne and - more so - her relatives, in Frasier). If no one knows, shut up and keep talking…
If you're really interested in how British people speak, take a look at this excellent page:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/recordings/index.shtml
It's the language map from the BBC's Voices project. You could spend hours, but just a few minutes spent digging around should be enough to convince you!
If you want to speak RP then there are many language coaches, books and so on that will teach it – and at least it's an accepted form of speech which doesn't vary. But if you want to speak with a "British accent", then the bottom line is that you're going to have to pick one (from dozens) and work on it to get it sounding authentic! _________________ MIKE COOPER VOICEOVER |
The guy next door. Only better. And British.
web: www.MikeCooperVoiceover.com
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11067 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:06 am Post subject: |
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I lost the will to live.
Forgive me saying this, I'll say it only once using my best British vernacular.
Actors and Voices in the USA spend far too much time and money on Coaches who for the most part make a living talking total bollocks! Take responsibility for your own career development, learn the best way you can and stop listening to garbage.
Ever wondered why I give my knowledge away? Because it's worthless to the majority.
Now - How to play the flute
Blow in one end and move your fingers up and down the keys on the outside. |
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Moe Egan 4 Large

Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 4339 Location: Live Free or Die
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Brilliant Banksey! I shall go and purchase a flute today. I'm sure I will be the next Ian Anderson...or Ron Burgundy. Great Odin's raven! _________________ Moe Egan
i want to be the voice in your head.
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roger King's Row

Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 1064 Location: Central Kentucky
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:17 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Banks (Maestro),
How much do I owe you for the music lesson. I've already sent in my application for the New York Philharmonic and am looking forward to my new career as first chair flautist or do you need to do a demo for me.
Thanks and you make it all so simple, as well.
-roger _________________ Roger Tremaine
www.MyFavoriteVoice.com
http://rogertremaine.voices.com/
No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. AESOP (The Lion and the Mouse) |
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glittlefield M&M

Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 2039 Location: Round Rock, TX
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:33 am Post subject: |
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I'm of the mindset that accents can't be so much taught as observed and absorbed.
About that flute thing. Does it matter which end you blow into? I've sent my demo to the New York Philharmonic as well and told them I'd play for 10% of whatever Roger bid. _________________ Greg Littlefield
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11067 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:38 am Post subject: |
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NO LOWBALLING!! For hot tips and a rate card check out flute123.com |
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Moe Egan 4 Large

Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 4339 Location: Live Free or Die
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:41 am Post subject: |
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LOL
Oh my head that made me laugh. _________________ Moe Egan
i want to be the voice in your head.
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bobsouer Frequent Flyer

Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 9883 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Me too, Moe! _________________ Be well,
Bob Souer (just think of lemons)
The second nicest guy in voiceover.
+1-724-613-2749
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todd ellis A Zillion

Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 10523 Location: little egypt
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:44 am Post subject: |
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i am NO LOWBALLER, sir!
... and i'll do it for 10% of greg's 10% _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13020 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Americans who claim to do a "Cockney" accent make me want to shriek.
Dick Van Dyke, indeed!
By the way, I know all 3 British accents. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Moe Egan 4 Large

Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 4339 Location: Live Free or Die
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: |
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1. Monty Python
2. Harry Potter
3. Dick Van Dyke
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i want to be the voice in your head.
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paddyo CM

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 975 Location: New York City
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Moe Egan wrote: | I shall go and purchase a flute today. I'm sure I will be the next Ian Anderson... |
Who knows Moe. If you get really good, you might even be the next Jethro Tull!!!
Paddyo
www.thepatrickoconnor.com _________________ Proud member of F.U.F.F. |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11067 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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She's going to invent the seed drill? |
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Moe Egan 4 Large

Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 4339 Location: Live Free or Die
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Ian Anderson played the flute as part of Tull...duh! (or...am I missing some snappy bi-continental wry ribbing from Paddy and Pip?)  _________________ Moe Egan
i want to be the voice in your head.
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