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Rob Ellis
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: latest on the M600 Audio Mount Reply with quote

...I read a few archived posts on it, and they mostly seem positive.

But haven't seen any recent ones.

Anyone else have input on this device? Obviously I'm considering one (or maybe two) if the buzz is still reasonably positive.

But since my Gefell M930 shockmount ran $200, I want to be reasonably sure as to the efficacy of the M600 before pulling the trigger.

But I am thinking it may take some of the boominess I get out of the Sennheiser 415 shotgun.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Super Mafer Clamps by Matthews or Bogen are under $50 and will take care of some resonances in the mic body.Slightly better noise floor than a spider mount, and better tighter lows due to controlling resonations on the mic body. I've used them with 416s, they're great for that application.

The only drawback is that you have to do acrobatics with your boom stand or mount LCDs sideways to make it a mafer work. That's one huge advantage of the M600 - that it plays nice with most mics.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Lance.

I went ahead and ordered an M600.

We'll see!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just talking about the M600 today with Ben Wilson. Here's a nice thread about the M600, including a couple shootouts, on GearSlutz:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gear-shoot-outs-sound-file-comparisons-audio-tests/61782-enhanced-audio-m600-mic-mount-audio-samples.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob, I have the M600. I have not compared it to using a spider mount yet, so I'm honestly not certain it makes a huge difference. I will say though, that small mics can be a pain to use with the M600, and the M930 is TINY. (By the way, I had a session using the M930 last week and just loved it. I thought I sounded better on it than the U87s and TLM-103 I've recorded with lately. I'll try to find what preamp the studio was using. But I digress...)

Also, the shape of the mic matters. My own TLM-103 for example is not a straight-sided mic - each side narrows at the end. So the M600 does not get a really good grip on the mic it seems, and I have to be really careful that it does not slip out. That would be a potentially very expensive drop.

Before you pull the trigger, I'd try to get feedback from an M930 user who has actually tried it with the M600.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys,
I have the M600 and use it with my Gefell MT71s. Before I went to the 71s, I was using the M930 and it worked fine. It was a little odd seeing that tiny mic in that big mount! If I remember correctly, the bottom mounting screws went to the body of the mic and the top 3 went to the barrel.
When that mic came in, my wife Ann said, "Is THAT going to work?".
One thing to keep in mind is that if you're going to use the mount with the U-87, don't tighten the screws down very much or you'll dent the mic.
Also, you do need to make sure that your stand is isolated real well because anything the stand picks up will be transmitted to the mic.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A solid clamp mounts are not created equal. Using a stand grip mount for lighting rigs is not a substitute. The M600 grips at 6 tiny points of contact, which is why it works as well as it does at rejecting infrasonic vibration.
The tips of the balls inside the plastic pads that touch your mic only make contact with a very small surface area.
I have two M600's in stock if anyone else wants one. I also have an Enhanced Audio APS600 mic stand which I am beginning to demo around the LA studios. Steve Stone bought one and raves about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good info, everybody. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David Browne of Enhanced Audio and I had a great talk about the M600 this evening. He's a wonderful guy and it was a pleasure to discuss audio with him. I've heard the samples of the M600 before on voice and various sources and it definitely makes a substantial positive difference. I've had my eye on one for a while and I think I'll be ordering one soon.

What I said about a Mafer before was misleading, and I edited that. The Mafer will cut resonance on the mic body and its mass will absorb external vibrations to a degree on par with some spider mounts. The effect will be a nice tightening up on the area around 80-250Hz.

What the Mafer can't do but the M600 can do is tighten up those lows plus more effectively control resonance well below 80Hz which is critical. Those lows mask the overall sound, thereby clouding/limiting the mids and highs. The M600 will improve the sound over the entire spectrum.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Lance.

I have gone back and forth on this because of the price, and let's face it, buying a mic mount isn't as fun as buying ANOTHER MICROPHONE....

but I think this will be a worthwhile investment based on what others are saying.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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more effectively control resonance well below 80Hz


is that similar to what a high pass filter set at 80hz does?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No....a filter removes or reduces frequencies. The M600 just makes them clearer and less fuzzy compared to a standard mic mount with rubber bands or whatever because it removes one of the floating sources.

Think about it....you have a mic with a capsule inside (that is somewhat floating already) and that capsule is vibrating when you speak. Putting the mic in a shockmount that is also floating the mic will only muddy the signal.

From my experience, the M600 works great. And if you loosen the Allen sockets (and then retighten when done) you can adjust a mic anyway you want it.

I am in a booth on casters so I don't pick up much in the way of floor vibrations. But I believe the Enhanced Audio site says if you are not on a concrete floor or a floating booth, you may not like the result of the M600 since it will let the mic pickup sub sonic vibrations.

But the end review for me.....the M600 works really well for adding a nice punch to the low end spectrum and crisps the high end so to avoid adding artificial EQ....and it is highly functional for adjusting mics etc.

One note: If you monitor your audio on sub par monitor speakers or cheap headphones, you may not be all that impressed. I have a 10" sub in my monitor set up....I heard a difference for sure.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that clarification, Ben.

I am also in a booth with casters.

If I remember correctly you use a 416 and a Gefell condenser.

Do you notice equal improvement, or one more than the other?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used it on a 416, a U87 and a Gefell UT71s. It worked great on all of them and sounded clearer and more full than the usual spider mount.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool. I have one on the way and can't wait to try it!
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