VO-BB - 20 YEARS OLD!

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

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I have had both the Focusrite Platinum and the Avalon 737, no longer have the Focusrite.

To my ear the Avalon sounds better, period.

Bruce · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:29 am Post subject:

Philip Banks · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:14 am Post subject:

The Ferrari reference was about Dan's voice in an enamel bucket.

speakingofdave · Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 6 Location: Seattle, WA

I think the Avalon sounded better. Clearer, cleaner and warmer.
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BenWils · Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:55 am Post subject:

I love the growl right out of your "okay" on the Avalon sample. I can tell you were wearing headphones.....don't tell me I'm wrong! LOL.

Congrats on the new shiny box.....and the bucket. Gasp

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Jowillie · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject:

So, the bottom line, from everything that has been mentioned from the start, is... If you agree the preamp side of the Avalon 737 does indeed make a difference with your particular mic and set-up--then invest in the Avalon M-5??
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Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta

The M5 is not like the 737.

From their website:

http://www.avalondesign.com/737m5.html
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Jowillie · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:15 pm Post subject:

Lawd havemercy, Lance. You are right. My bad. Don't tell J. Cipriano that.
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Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta

No problem...but here's an issue with the M5 that the Avalon site admits about great super-high-purity preamps: they bring out the room acoustics.

Do we want that in voiceover? Not really. Sometimes I suppose. Up front and in my face, thank you very much.
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kgenus · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: Ode a la Jerry Springer

You know, there are an amazing variety of options available in the world of preamps today. But sometimes we get caught up in our working world and forget to take advantage of and embrace this complexity. We become stuck on one particular idea of a sound we provide, totally unable to even contemplate trying anything new and different. Once the seed of change is actually planted, we unconsciously become unsettled and question our existing setups without any regard for the effect it is having on our work and the producers final product. At the same time manufacturers and distributors need to understand that even though they may produce a product that everyone says is of an amazingly new design or the usually perfected recreation of a vintage product, the bottom line is that all they've really produced is another way to amplify a signal, no matter what the cost or claim. Maybe one day a time will come when we as consumers and users of these products will stand up and take this into consideration -- recognition that gear lust affects us all and it's yet another veil keeping us from becoming who we really are in front of a mic.
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kgenus · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject:

... and yes, I own a 737sp.
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Philip Banks · Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:08 am Post subject:

Ok, I admit it, I own a Mk1 Philip Banks and that's all people buy from me. I have a portable version I take on holiday with me, it even works on location, in poorly equipped studios and in live environments.

Warning - It's high maintainance, heavy and ****ing expensive.

Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta

LOL...over on GS gear forum, there was a thread asking if preamps really only "give the goods" when they're driven to their characteristic distortion: implying that they're all very similar otherwise.

Only two other people besides me responded. I challenged some one to have a "low gain" shootout of pres, which I think would support the OP's idea. The thread got completely ignored...so I just bumped it. It's a valid point, and I think it's pretty true.
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Jowillie · Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:09 am Post subject:

Mike Sommer · Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject:

737 is a love lovely amp and can make the TLM103 sound like a U87.

Though I believe the Avalon M5 or a Vintech 1272 are better choices. Cupeled with a LA2A or a LA4 compressor you'll have gold.
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