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Lee Gordon A Zillion

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6865 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Lance Blair wrote: | As for direction, we here often talk about "giving the director what they want" - in the case of celebrity VOs they are directed sparingly if at all compared to us working class voiceoverist folks. I've recorded a few a-list people and I've edited the sessions from a few of the a-list VO/actors and the direction intensity just isn't there. The talents are hired for their personality, and nobody is going to try and get in the way of that. The directors are more like ADs making sure nobody screws up the session.
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These people are actors and are used to working with directors. It's my guess that, in many cases, the person who would be directing one of us mere mortal voiceoverists is afraid to do the same with a hot shot movie star. It's also my guess that these celebrity actors would prefer to receive more direction than some of these directors are giving them. _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
Voice President of the United States
www.leegordonproductions.com
Twitter: @LeeGordonVoice
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Bill Campbell DC

Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 621
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:20 am Post subject: |
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I think the Hyundai campaign with Bridges is strong because...
a) they are well written
b) there's white space
c) Jeff sounds real
d) he sounds very American, good way to sell Korean cars to Americans.
Hyundai has been extremely successful selling cars in the US the last two years, even in the economic downturn. _________________ www.asapaudio.com |
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ccpetersen With a Side of Awesome

Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 3708 Location: In Coherent
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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We've worked with well-known actors and except for one, they all thanked us for the direction we gave. Even the most famous one... he pointed out to us that as actors, they expect direction.
The only exception was one who was difficult to deal with, and yes, a big name, and felt that he knew better what the script writer (me) had in mind. Since I wasn't there, I guess he must have used the force to read my mind or something. _________________ Charter Member: Threadjackers Local 420 |
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SteVO Contributor IV

Joined: 09 Jun 2010 Posts: 107 Location: Salt Lake Valley floor
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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This whole Hyundai/Jeff Bridges thing as stirred up some interesting observations. I did not see what a lot of you saw or I didn't interpret the same way. I'm going to go back, look at it and see what I missed. _________________ "I'm thinking...and it hurts" |
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Todd Ethridge Contributor III

Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 86 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Lance Blair wrote: | Great radio personalities have all the skills of great voice over artists.
Bad voice over talents have all the skills of bad radio jockeys. |
Well said. _________________ http://toddvoice.com/ |
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Donna King's Row

Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 1118 Location: The studio or the barn.
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Tess, you are a welcome voice on this board -- glad you're here! And thank you for posting that link. It's not one I'd seen. Here's another, with really pedestrian copy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXBS4x660Bc
He nails
every
syllable.
IMHO it is The Perfect Read. _________________ Dangerous.
Donna Postel
donnapostel.com
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TessTalks

Joined: 16 Jun 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Hi, Donna ~ Thank you for the warm welcome!
The Hyundai spot you posted was one I hadn't seen before - and I agree: perfect
What's interesting about that spot compared to quite a few others for Hyundai, is that in the spot you posted - there's a brighter quality to his voice, there's a bit of cheer which goes well with the message in the copy.
He has amazing restraint ~
(something I need to learn)
The Dude abides....
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SteVO Contributor IV

Joined: 09 Jun 2010 Posts: 107 Location: Salt Lake Valley floor
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:54 am Post subject: |
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OK OK so it's the restraint that's impressive? I need to learn that myself. I suppose I confuse restraint with "too relaxed" or "don't care". That's just me showing my ignorance. Now I have yet another way to give words life. My ear becomes better trained every minute.  _________________ "I'm thinking...and it hurts" |
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TessTalks

Joined: 16 Jun 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:54 am Post subject: |
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NO! Not "ignorance" no, no, no. Learning these subtle differences is part of a new skill set. In radio, we had been taught/trained to do things in a very different way.
No one with a mind that is open to learning, and open to looking at things a new way could ever be ignorant.
Sorry for the strong reaction, I'm just very "anti" negative language. oh, wait....
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SteVO Contributor IV

Joined: 09 Jun 2010 Posts: 107 Location: Salt Lake Valley floor
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Ah Ha...you took my use of the word "ignorance" as a negative. Had I been voicing that statement it would never have come across negatively. The word ignorance to me means to ignore the obvious. It was a sarcastic use of the word. I was making fun of myself more than anything. I take the "scolding" to heart and will be much more positive in the future. BTW Tess...great demo. _________________ "I'm thinking...and it hurts" |
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Mike Sommer A Hundred Dozen

Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 1222 Location: Boss Angeles
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Lee Gordon wrote: |
These people are actors and are used to working with directors. It's my guess that, in many cases, the person who would be directing one of us mere mortal voiceoverists is afraid to do the same with a hot shot movie star. It's also my guess that these celebrity actors would prefer to receive more direction than some of these directors are giving them. |
Here a "director" displays his ignorance with Shatner (from the Howard Stern Show).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfDHIqmUUMs&playnext_from=TL&videos=CXCKKB6RJ7M _________________ The Blog:
http://voiceoveraudio.blogspot.com/
Acoustics are counter-intuitive. If one thing is certain about acoustics, it is that if anything seems obvious it is probably wrong. |
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TessTalks

Joined: 16 Jun 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Glad you're not being hard on yourself, Azkope ~ and thanks for the kind words
omg, Mike - that made me SO HAPPY!! Hahaha!! I hadn't heard that one before - loved it. Why would you hire William Shatner and then try to un-Shatner him? |
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SteVO Contributor IV

Joined: 09 Jun 2010 Posts: 107 Location: Salt Lake Valley floor
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Oh YEAH!!! This is funny funny funny. I better keep my mouth shut or I'll pop some pills in it.  _________________ "I'm thinking...and it hurts" |
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Scott Pollak The Gates of Troy

Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Posts: 1903 Location: Looking out at the San Juan mountains
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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I want to be Jeff Bridges when I grow up. _________________ Scott R. Pollak
Clients include Pandora, NPR Atlanta, Wells Fargo, Cisco, Humana, Publix, UPS, AT&T, HP, Xerox and more.
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Rob Ellis M&M

Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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You could call yourself "The Big Pollak-owski" |
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