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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11074 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Real name is Zoe. At the function she was attending where she wore the dress in the photo she wanted to go outside for a cigarette break. It was freezing cold and she had no coat so she borrowed a warm Berghaus jacket from the man backstage hired to be the Voice of God at the event.
Another good "Eastender" choice Samatha Janus
Or Amira Masood
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paddyo CM

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 975 Location: New York City
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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-------- _________________ Proud member of F.U.F.F.
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captain54 Lucky 700
Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Philip Banks wrote: | Real name is Zoe. |
Zoe, will you marry me? |
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SilverSurfer3001 Contributore Level V

Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 154 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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More Amira Masood, please.
(I just gotta thing for smokey eyed brunettes)
Back to topic: I dozed off about :45 into the intro. Dear Lord! It's a freakin podcast fergawdsakes, there is no reason to pad the clock with fluffy junk and plenty of crashes, tumbles and lightning.
Re-awoke to hear a woman who seems to have drank a bit too much of her own kool-aid and has taken on quite a pretentious tone to her voice. Not a good thing for someone wishing to instruct others on how to properly emote through a non-visual medium.
I have to tell you - this woman's speech and constant use of cliche took me back immediately to my days in teevee and the semi-annual visit form the dreaded consultant. I get a sneaking suspicion that her advice is likely about as valuable.
Although she seems quite proud of herself. I checked out her website. She will generously produce a demo fro you for the low low price of $3000.00 per demo.
I have to tell you, for 3 grand, it better come with contracts for three national television spots, 6 national radio spots and buyouts at the top union rate plus 45% with three 13-week guarantees each.
The fact that she has NO experience in the field and was haughty enough to be Brando's "coach" simply confirms the notion that there are those who can, then there are those who are generous enough to share what they do with others to help them along. Then there are consultants who are neither talented nor generous. _________________ Jody Silvers
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mcm Smart Kitteh

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Posts: 2600 Location: w. MA, USA
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yikes! Marice has coached a lot of people on this board, as well as all the top-earning promo and trailer voices in the U.S. I've seen amazing things happen in all of her workshops that I've attended, and she has helped me a ton. Her excellent reputation is well deserved.
"No experience in the field"? That is, frankly, risible. |
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ballenberg Lucky 700
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 793 Location: United States
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Silver Surfer--You mis-read the demo price. It's 4000. And she hasn't raised that price for quite some time.
And your last paragraph: Whew, that's a pretty rough assessment. Better get some facts straight. She's expensive, but is very good at what she does. No one is forced to work with her. You decide to pay that price, or you don't. |
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Drew King's Row

Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1118 Location: Tumbleweed Junction, The Republic of North Texas
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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"Risible" I've not seen nor heard that word in a long time. Thanks, Mary, for bringing that one back to my vocabulary. I just told a voice seeker his budget was such.
As for coaches. It's an individual thing. You'll know within the first 30 minutes whether it's a good fit. _________________ www.voiceoverdrew.com
Skype: andrew.hadwal1
Although I have a full head of hair, I'm quite ribald. |
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JTVG Backstage Pass
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 433
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Might be wise to remember who Ryan's primary audience is. Radio imaging producers and aspiring voice-over people, probably with day-jobs in radio. The flashy, wiz-bang, heavily produced intro is like audio ecstacy for people like that. It's a geek thing. I think Ryan does a great job with these podcasts. Nobody else is interviewing the people he is. But maybe you can do it better?
I'm really surprised at all the bitterness in this thread. _________________ Joe Szymanski
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Mike Harrison M&M

Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 2029 Location: Equidistant from New York City and Philadelphia, along the NJ Shore
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Whether or not his audience is primarily imaging folk, the intro was unnecessarily long and unnecessarily noisy. Was the feature an interview... or an imaging demo? Just as those who wear excessive amounts of perfume or cologne need to know the stuff is designed to attract people, not turn them away in droves, this was like having to listen to 6 local car dealership commercials. Hitting people over the head is not conducive to winning their praise.
Same goes for most pop radio station imaging. At the top of the hour, it sounds like they fire off every single sound effect they can lay their hands on: whooshes, explosions, lasers, stuttered speech, you name it. For what? To tell the audience that the image they're to come away with of this radio station is one of noise? What's the point of station imaging if all the pop stations play the same music and identify themselves the same way?
Maybe it's me.
Nope. _________________ Mike
Male Voice Over Talent
I have taken leave of my sensors.
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Michael Minetree Contributore Level V

Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Washington. D.C.
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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JTVG wrote: | I'm really surprised at all the bitterness in this thread. |
I'm not. I think most people know a duck when they see a duck.
I haven't listened - but I'm sure it will be just as smug as it is listening to similar contemporaries blather on like Tony Robbins.
If you own a gym - and 95% of your members are cheerleaders and models - it's pretty easy to walk through your gym with prospective clients and sell them on the idea that your fitness programs are successful.
If you're an NFL agent who only reps 1st round draft picks, it's pretty easy to sell people on the idea that you must be a really good agent - even if you lucked into that position through acquaintances or business partners.
If you happen to be one of the privileged few in the VO production community who has the ears of top people and a Rolodex to match - and you only work with working talent - it's pretty easy to sell people on the idea that your word is gospel and that you're a raving success.
Suround yourself with successful people and it's very easy for others to assume that you're successful. Wonderful marketing tool, works like a magic potion on people. Though it doesn't say alot for internal substance.
The real trick is taking a nobody and making them somebody - not taking someone who is working and convincing them that you've just made them a better version of themselves... _________________ "I would rather bask in the warmth of leading others to success than wander the world aimlessly telling others of my own." |
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JTVG Backstage Pass
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Michael Minetree wrote: |
Suround yourself with successful people and it's very easy for others to assume that you're successful. Wonderful marketing tool, works like a magic potion on people. |
I see you're a coach, Michael. Your website says you're "one of the top technical voiceover coaches in the industry today." So, I'm gathering that one of your marketing tools is to bash other coaches?
I've never studied with Marice. But I work with an amazing coach who pulls stuff out of me I didn't even know I had in there. I have no doubt Marice does the same for the people that use her.
Reading these posts is like reading negative reviews on Amazon by people who never even tried the product in question. _________________ Joe Szymanski
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Michael Minetree Contributore Level V

Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Washington. D.C.
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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JTVG wrote: | I'm gathering that one of your marketing tools is to bash other coaches? |
Wrong on both counts - Not bashing anyone - just voicing my opinion... and... I don't market my services as a coach to anyone on this board... _________________ "I would rather bask in the warmth of leading others to success than wander the world aimlessly telling others of my own." |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11074 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:32 am Post subject: |
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I've read every post on this thread and see nothing angry, bitter or negative. By negative I mean being "anti" just for the sake of being anti. Negative in discussions is usually a word thrown at someone when the phrase "I don't like what you said" would be more appropriate.
Dan took a moment out of his day to post a link to something he thought may interest us, it did.
The official line on most websites like VO-BB is "woot awesome dood". I actually enjoy visiting and contributing to websites from which there is something to be learned. I'm interested in the opinions of others partcularly if they offer informed opinions.
Should anyone want to Marice or Ryan bash, do it somewhere else. No one here is doing either. |
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JTVG Backstage Pass
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 433
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Philip Banks wrote: | I'm interested in the opinions of others particularly if they offer informed opinions. |
That's the point. None of you have actually worked with Marice before. So the opinions are not truly informed. Like I said, it's a bit like reviewing a certain type of coffee pot without having actually tried it.
I stand by what I said about the negativity. You can call it whatever you like, but like Michael said, if it walks like a duck.... As for Ryan, he's providing a valuable podcast to a certain group of people. Can't handle the intro? Fast forward it. Or better yet, "pre-ignore".
I'm out. _________________ Joe Szymanski
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mcm Smart Kitteh

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Posts: 2600 Location: w. MA, USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:27 am Post subject: |
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I've seen discussions on this board of snake-oil "coaches" that were far more circumspect than this one - even in Entre Nous. |
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