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D Voice
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 Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: Ultravoice VX2496 |
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http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/VX2496.aspx
Yeah, it's a (discontinued) Behringer, so I know what most of you will say.
But I picked up a second hand one, pretty cheap. Thinking about using it on some podcast/local radio stuff I am doing. Might use it for recording right at the desks with some dynamic mics, since it's got the gate.
Any helpful comments on how I should use it and getting the most out of it?
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The radio station I work for in Boston had a few of those awhile back. You might be able to use it for podcasting, but frankly for broadcast I thought the unit sounded bad. The EQ is useless and the pre is no better than anything you find in one of their boards. I don't recall how well the gate worked. Not much of a Behringer fan I'm afraid.
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I use a Behringer Autocom for the downward expander. I like it better than the dbx because the expander doesnt bring up the volume when I'm not talking. You may want to shy away from depending on the pre's for the reason previously mentioned though. I sold a Behringer board to go with a mackie for a cleaner signal from the pre's.
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i don't speak german - but i believe "behringer" translates directly to "style over substance". i'm just sayin'. then again, you might have the perfect use for it!
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Edo used to rave about this unit years ago, so I bought one. This was in the infancy of my home studio, and I didn't really know what to do with it and ended up selling it. If you do a search of the archive, you'll find more info.
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| todd ellis wrote: | | i don't speak german - but i believe "behringer" translates directly to "style over substance". i'm just sayin'. then again, you might have the perfect use for it! |
yeah, they don't get alot of love from people who need top quality equipment for professional gigs, but for a starting point for someone getting their feet wet, its a good springboard to better stuff. I still like my unit though, and I get no complaints on audio quality.
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Can't speak to that unit but I have an old Behringer Composer Pro laying around that I bought strictly for it's gate. Problem is, that unit would always compress, ever so slightly, no matter what settings or input levels you send in. And your input had better be way low, or else your waveform will look flat, thanks to its overactive hard limiter, even at the "off" position. There was no bypass to only use the gate. Hopefully, this unit will allow you more control.
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D Voice
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Thanks Kasey, Joe. Your comments regarding the expander were helpful. Assuming that it is similar, any suggestions/tips on the settings for that?
I do appreciate people weighing in, but the question here was not "What do you think of Behringer stuff?" - I already knew what the answer would be to that- but rather, the question is:
"I've got this unit, how can I make the best of it?"
(settings, etc.). When I have got the money to spend on something pricier, I will ask that.
For now, I think its primary purpose will be to use with a dynamic mic for short .mp3 podcasts and occasional radio newscast. I've got a different setup for my condenser mics for other stuff. |
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Another Radio Newser...me too...anyway, the way I have my unit set is with the expander engaged. I dont use the gate portion. I have my trigger dial set at about -40 because it works for my environment, yours will vary. My threshold is set to about -9 and my compression is 2 to 1. I prefer a fast attack and release time. With your unit, you'll have more options, but those should be self explanatory.
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| D Voice wrote: | | Assuming that it is similar, any suggestions/tips on the settings for that? |
Well, my unit had a combined gate/expander. When it wasn't gating, it was expanding. Maybe Kasey's gate & expander run independent of each other which would be preferable. That may have led to part of the problem of it sounding artificial for me, like something was being compressed, I don't know. The trick with mine was running very low levels in so as not to engage the compressor & limiter or to engage as minimally as possible. Best way would be to set all the knobs as conservatively as possible at first, cut a track and make sure your waveform is very natural with peaks and valleys. But a word of warning, even with a natural looking waveform, it was obvious to my ear that someone was still being processed in some way and not just gated. Anyway, from there, optimize your gate for your room by listening only to the booth noise with the mic on and up to the level you'll be recording at and then slowly moving the threshold until any hiss/room noise is dampened, then add in compression if desired. With that, you already know less is generally more. If you can find a manual, it might make some things more clear too. Good luck!
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The best noise gate Behringer ever made was the 202, if you can ever find one, get it. As for what you got, haven't used one...
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D Voice
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: 202 |
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| soundgun wrote: | | The best noise gate Behringer ever made was the 202, if you can ever find one, get it. |
sorry George, which 202 are you referring to? |
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