VO-BB - 20 YEARS OLD!

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

...no, really I'm serious....please listen and see if A or B strikes you as a best

choice for general vo duties, or if it's a wash either way. I will reveal the

mystery mics once there is a clear consensus.

the envelope please

EDIT: I think initially w/ Mic 2 I may have been a little more off-axis, so I re-recorded #2 4/30/11 10:40am

Monk · Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:48 am Post subject:

They're close, that's for sure.

I liked 1 (one) better. I can explain it in the same techno lingo as Frank or Mike, but it sounded cleaner on the highs without losing the low end. Had a little more mouth noise than Mic 2, but that didn't affect my vote.

Mic 2 (two) sounded just fine as well, but missing some of that upper air.

Otherwise, nice and clean, good room, didn't sound boxy or any other noise that I could hear through my Sony MDR-7508 headphones.

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captain54 · Lucky 700 Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago

Mic 2 sounded a bit "fizzy" to me on the upper end, kind of like the AT mics I've had.. So my choice would be Mic 1

trevorjonesvo · Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:49 am Post subject: Mic Shootout

Mic One for sure - cleaner sound.

Mic Two seemed to go south in the high end - not quite distortion, but started losing it.

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Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

Thanks guys---I think I may have been a little more off-axis initially

on Mic#2, so I re-recorded that mic. If you can give it another quick listen

to see if it made any difference it would be mucho appreciado Laugh

captain54 · Lucky 700 Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago

the color of Mic#2 definitely changed from the repositioning.... more detailed
and articulated without the "fizzyness"...

Hard to pick a favorite, because they both sound pretty good to me.... #1 sounds a bit subdued and darker, whereas #2 is brighter and detailed..

if I had to though, I would say #2 because it has a nice mix of detail without harsh plus a pleasing low/mid...

lotta mouth noise though

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

After several re-drafts on the re-edit I actually ended up re-doing both mics and

did a different read as well (for Children's Hospital) is that

the one you heard?

captain54 · Lucky 700 Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago

yes, whatever you have currently posted on the board

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

BTW these are both condenser mics, different manufacturers, and one is about double the price of

the other.

captain54 · Lucky 700 Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago

Okay, what are the mics?

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

Mic#1-Brauner Phantom C

Mic #2-Neumann U87ai

I already own the Neumann, the Brauner I can still return. Or if I chose the

Brauner, could still sell the Neumann and have about $600 left over.

I like them both, in different ways. I could keep both, but I don't know if the

practical bean-counter part of me will sit for that.

Not sure why but I'm leaning toward the Brauner, could be just the newness or novelty of it, not sure.

Mike Sommer · Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:41 am Post subject:

I do like the Brauner. But on your voice, and in that boxy little booth it's just too transparent. That mic needs to breath, you would sound better on that mic if you backed off if- maybe 12-inches or so.

Try the test one more time, outside the booth.
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Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

Okay, here are the mics OUTSIDE the booth

Busting down the closet door

Mike Sommer · Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:52 pm Post subject:

The biggest thing you need to do is work on is mic technique, lots of popping and mouth noise.

Is the mic directly in front of you or off to the side?

Also do you have a spring arm mic holder?? I hear the telltale sound of a vibrating tensioned spring at :13 - :15.

The mic should be off to the side, with the capsule at about cheek level pointed at you mouth.

With all that, along with some room reflections, it sounds MUCH better with distance and a bigger room. The Neumann's sound even opened up.

I hope everyone hears what I've been telling you all these years: bigger rooms sound better. Get out of the coffins.
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Monk · Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:17 am Post subject:

I agree with Mike, the close proximity to both mic's sounded to muddy. Once you gave them 8" of distance, they sounded better.

The U87 had cleaner highs to my ears, but both sounded better outside the booth. I think I heard a dog walk in.

Pop filter would be good too.
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