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Chuck Davis

Here's an intersting one. Got two auditions for the same client...from two different agents. Now here's the twist....they're for different roles. One -a character....the other - an announcer part.

I only auditioned for one of the two. That's the one that arrived first and was out the door before the other arrived.

What would you have done?
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Bish · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:15 pm Post subject:

Two roles, two agents, albeit the same end client... I don't see any conflict at all here... go for both! Unless the client is asleep at the wheel, you won't get offered both roles, so no issues down the line. It's interesting that the two agents have a different idea of where you "fit", and I'm sure that the client knows how agents work, so I wouldn't think there's any downside at all.

Keep in mind that this comes from someone who doesn't have an agent yet Smile

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Jen Gosnell · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject:

I'll be curious to see if this has happened to anyone else and what others might do.

I can see why it might feel awkward to submit for both, but OTOH, who knows which agent may have their finger more attentively on the client's pulse? I don't know that I'd consider it a conflict to submit for both. But I am not experienced in making this sort of call.

You might consider running the question by Nancy, too, Chuck.
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Philip Banks · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:43 am Post subject:

As with the majority of audition issues raised here the key appears to be the answer to this question. Did YOU receive 2 audition requests or were you amongst a number of people who received an audition request?

How should you think about your agents? Simple; you should spend as much time thinking about them as they do about you.

My agent last thought about me on the 15th, she called and asked me about a job which I did via ISDN on the 16th. I have been with Victoria for around 10 years and I can't remember doing a single audition.

ballenberg · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:42 am Post subject:

Regarding auditions and Philip's take on auditions:

That's there--this is here. It's a very different marketplace.

Here, it's a fact. You want to work? Do your auditions.

In the above example, since there are two different parts being auditioned I see no issue in submitting each separately to its own agent.

Philip Banks · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:45 am Post subject:

Thanks Bill, persepective is everything.

Two very important points. Certainly a difference in the way the market works over here and where US and UK voice have to be careful is in extremes of behaviour. In the UK we have to ensure that we don't take the view that we shouldn't audition for anything and in the US the opposite is the case, we shouldn't audition for everything. Career is like life best when in balance.

As far as the auditions Chuck has mentioned, not an issue, two different potential jobs from two different sources.

On a slighlty different matter, is it just me who doesn't like...
"BUDGET -TBD" ? A client asking for a job to be done and hasn't decided how much they want to pay, should pay or hasn't even come up with an approximate figure. really?

Should I audition for a job and I get it I believe that I am honour bound to do it. What if the fee is not enough? That's my fault as I should've either stated my minimum fee or established the budget even if it was only a ball park figure. Of course I will diplomatically say something to the person involved but I will not, in the case of a agency, production company or other business making something for a 3rd party, embarrass them in front of their client.

glittlefield · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:40 am Post subject:

Chuck Davis · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:44 am Post subject:

Thanks for weighing in on this one guys. I still have till Friday to submit the second audition. I think I may send it in now. It's in the can already.
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ballenberg · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:00 am Post subject:

Yes. Philip--That's totally right--Balance is the key.

And TBD--I agree again. However, I don't feel there's a need to commit to a job blindly without knowing what it pays. If our audition is selected, and we can't come to financial terms, they'll move on to their next choice.

I'm pretty sure if I called an electrician and told him to come over and do a job for me, and I'll tell him what I'll pay him when he gets here...well, I think we know what would happen.

Yonie · CM Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 906

I usually think of TBD as "We don't really know what to give, what's a good price? We might just be sitting on a sack of money for you, but what's the standard?" Then you quote them your rate and fugeddaboutit.

Gregory Best · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:16 pm Post subject:

I tend to be on Mr. Banks' side. More than 90% of my work has come through a referral, someone I know, repeat business (my favorite) or they found me and liked what they heard so I did the job. When I was auditioning a bit I started to feel I was wasting my time in a cattle call environment. I have no paid P2P memberships. Where does the majority of your work come from?

I wonder if many in the US have been conditioned to think they have to audition all the time? I just saw an FB post about the recent expansion of a P2P's operation. Who do think is paying for the opportunity to audition like mad and funding the P2Ps' operations? Not the buyer of VO services. It is the VO talent. Think about it. I am going back to work on updating my demos. (and market myself)
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