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Has anyone tried the Neumann Z26 MT Inline Shock Mount?

 
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Velfin
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:44 pm    Post subject: Has anyone tried the Neumann Z26 MT Inline Shock Mount? Reply with quote

That little inline shock mount seems awfully...tidy. And the price isn't bad either.

Has anyone given it a try?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can find nothing meaningful on-line except that it's a rubber-coupler and that it's around $100. Considering Neumann will sell you a spider shock-mount for $350, I fully expect to see perfectly serviceable third-party copies of this rubber wonder for $20 very soon.

Supporting from above, a soft rubber material could be used, and may have have a noticeable effect on reducing transmitted vibrations (although I can't see it offering anywhere near as much isolation as a traditional spider mount). If the unit is designed to support from below as well, then the rubber would have to be rigid enough to provide support, and hence not be the greatest vibration isolator anyway.

This all has no scientific basis, and is just my gut feel. You'd get better isolation putting the stand on a rubber mat probably. For $100, I could get a really nice third-party spider mount.

I agree that it is a "tidy" solution (if it is, in fact, a solution), but as to "the price isn't bad" ... I'd wait for the $20 clones.

Sorry, but Mr. Grumpy hasn't had his coffee yet Smile

... and welcome to the board!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Peter - I hadn't thought of the above-vs-below factor. I think I'll stick with my Rycote USM-L for now, especially considering I'll probably have a new mic sometime and that inline would need an adapter if the mic size changes.

I'm supporting from below at the moment, but keep bumping into the mic stand when I read (expressive, but not graceful, that's me) so I'll be moving to support from above when I find an arm I like.

And thanks for the welcome, too!

Btw, I detected no particular grumpiness in your post. Wonder what that says about my baseline grumpiness...is there a grumpiness noise floor?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see what you're trying to achieve here... I never could get on with a mic stand right in front of me (although I've have had to learn to deal with the copy stand). Take a look at my photograph in this thread, and you'll see that a boom attachment to the stand can let you move the stand quite far away. I got this boom from Sweetwater... it's an On-Stage brand, and cost a little over $20.

My studio space is set up with both the Shure SM7B on a cheap artictulated arm that I've attached to the wall (springs dampened with foam), and the condenser-of-the-day on the boom/floor stand.

http://www.vo-bb.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13404

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a lovely setup you have - and a good thread for me to read. Thank you!

I've been hesitant to get a boom arm because I'm working in my walk-in-closet right now and I think I'd be backed up against the wall like Sigourney Weaver in that scene from Alien if I tried to jam a boom into the space. It doesn't help that I'm 5'2" so the arm would have to be nearly horizontal to get the height right. Though maybe I could set it up to come in from the side - it looks like that's how you have yours arranged, yes?

I'm chicken-and-egging it trying to get the sound balanced well enough to hold me while I save up for a Whisper Room or a move to the basement - trying to only buy stuff that'll be useful now and then.

Worth a try, especially at that price. A boom would be more portable and wouldn't put another hole in my closet wall - the DH is already a little annoyed at the ones there for the blanket-holding clamps. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and then there's the debate about whether a solid mount vs spider mount improves the bass response.

If the microphone and capsule are not allowed to move, then more of that low end is captured.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter, how did you dampen the springs with foam? Mine sometimes rattle on certain frequencies and I'd love to get rid of the noise. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pam - i wrapped my whole boom in pipe insulation from the plumbing department @ lowes for about $5.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fabby idea Todd! And an excuse to go the hardware store (not that I need an excuse). Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming external springs, it's nothing too fancy... I literally wedged a couple of foam off-cuts (approx 1"x 2"x 6") between the springs and the arms. Doesn't look pretty, but it was a temporary fix that solved the problem... and it seems to have become permanent Smile

Oooo... I've just seen Todd's. I see Lowe's on the horizon!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pam, I've also seen folks simply wrap the springs with electrical tape. Seems to work just fine.
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