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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:55 pm    Post subject: For all us former radio guys 'n' gals out there Reply with quote

Another reason to be SO glad we're doing v/o now:

http://www.radio-info.com/news/feds-report-announcers-annual-salary-gulp-a-median-of-27k
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That same topic came up yesterday on "Says You" on NPR. One of the 10 worst jobs in America when you lump in stress and....job security.

Since I left my former employer the stories of further staff reductions, pay cuts and moral fading to black have been coming in regularly....and this was a major market cluster. I hate to think what it's like in small market radio now.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voice tracking, Chuck. Lots and lots of voice tracking.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lots and lots of voice tracking.


.....from outside the market.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, I hear that on the local stations here. Only the Country station is live in all dayparts expect overnights. One word....boring.

Funny, coming from radio less than a year ago, the corporate types would have a "pep rally" every so often to tell us what "great shape" radio is in....then a few weeks later positions would be cut, salarys would be reduced and moral would take another nose dive.

Yeah....radio's in great shape.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been sad to watch. CC's latest round of "rightsizing" put hundreds more on the beach, "insourcing" programming, voicetracking, production, imaging, and marketing of dozens of small and midmarket stations to the staffs of large and uppermid market clusters. The majority of content now originates from regional content farms whose voicetracking studios must hum round the clock. Those still working are said to be voicing shifts all over their region under various aliases.

Would you like fries with that? Sarcastic
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And Don, you bring up something with the voicetracking that just makes me steam. Do you think any of those folks who are v/t'ing for multiple stations are getting anything extra in their paycheck? Of course not, and yet they are, in essence, working for multiple stations. Radio has been on a death spiral for a decade or two now and it's only getting worse. There are a very few shining lights still out there, but they're rare. One is the local NPR station that I'm so blessed to be voicing for. They're well-run, well-supported and do a bang-up job. Class act with good, solid content and a strongly supportive listener base. The other group that seems to do a decent job in today's radio cesspool is Salem communications. At least from what I can gather from my friends who work for the local affiliates, while they HAVE had some salary cuts and things are tight, there also seems to be a real sense of loyalty to the employees from the company.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly, consolidation and deregulation have gutted the industry. Before I left, I went from programming one station to programming five, and voicetracking on three formats. Live and local has become rare. Unfortunately, quality of content has suffered as a result, and service to the community is virtually nonexistent. It's a shame. I remember fondly the good old days of live interaction with the audience. It's pretty much gone now, and unlikely to return. Radio has become a jukebox, researched to death, consulted from above, and syndicated into pablum for the masses. The sad part is that many of us blindly drank the kool-aid until it was too late, ignoring the writing on the wall. I, for one, enthusiastically embraced the technology, became a Selector wizard and an AudioVault ninja, and eventually mastered my way right out of a career....

Dumbass.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was lucky. My last gig was for one of the great rock signals in the US working for a Hobo Laughing who truly "got it" when it came to being a taste-maker station. Creativity was expected and encouraged. I started my VO career in their studios, they installed ISDN in my house so I could telecommute and I eventually built my business to a point where I was able to leave on my own terms and go fulltime with VO and production.

At the very end the corporate types were beginning to eye my situation...and compensation with raised eyebrows..but my Hobo Laughing defended me all the way.

I'm sure if I had stayed even another 6 months though there would have been "changes". My counterpart on the uber successful sports station there was just given a pay cut...after years of cutting edge, award winning work.

Nice "thank you" huh.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a lot of fun, and a lot of heartbreak, in my radio years. and that was outside my shift (bada-bum). i loved it and loathed it and am ever-so-thankful i'm not thick in it right now, relying on that paltry paycheck and giving up saturday morning personal time in order to set up the huge antenna, the marty, and my happy self to hawk furniture at the outlet.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The MARTY!

I don't miss those days at ALL. Started at WSAR in Fall River, at $5.oo an hour, moved to WSBS/WBBS at $8.5o an hour..

Afternoon drive time, evening news coverage and weekend remotes! "Where's the PSA Cart!"

Nope, give me a live audience any day. And a nice studio that pays a decent rate...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all the fault of the FCC.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monk wrote:
Started at WSAR in Fall River


A Knight Quality Station!

I feel so ahead of my time. I was downsized out of my radio job 15 years ago. Even before Cheap Channel took over the stations I worked for.

And I disagree, Ed, about who's responsible. It was congress, and not the FCC, who lifted the restriction on the number of stations one company could own. Deregulation was the beginning of the downfall of the industry. The FCC has done little or nothing to ameliorate the situation, but they did not create it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True. The Telcom bill was the beginning of the end.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Lee, congrerss then FCC Wink . We really know who the blame is but then that would get political. And of late I am enjoying not being in DB’s penalty box.

But the portable emergency radios are a big joke. Some serious weather comes my way, I am sure the local radio station will not provide any assistance. I will get more help from TV. That one reason I have an 8KW generator on standby.
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