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LaurenVoiceRealm



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:16 pm    Post subject: Voice Talent Professionalism through online casting sites Reply with quote

I feel the need to bring this up, in the hope that it could help some voice talent who aren't aware they are doing get more gigs!

On our site we observe all jobs and private auditions that are sent.

It's incredible to see how many voice talent do not engage in conversation with potential clients.

Not even a simple "Thanks for the opportunity, let me know if there's anything else you need."

What's your protocol for submitting auditions. Do you simply upload the file, or do you make conversation.

I truly believe that some talent miss out on jobs because they don't 'massage the client' so to speak....

Just some feedback from what I see that could help other voice talent.

Lauren Maree
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I do submit an audition, not that often, I add a note wishing the client the best of luck in their search for the right voice.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same as Philip. I also add direct contact information, but that's about it.

Short 'n Sweet should be a motto in my book.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try and act in a professional manner and keep chit chat to almost zero in the audition process. I'll answer any questions they might pose and often reinforce their special requirements (Yes, I can provide an AIFF file), but that's it. It's my voice that should be selling me not my glibness. Now once they engage me in conversation by email or phone I'm happy to warm up but only to the level the client seems to prefer.

I've posted many jobs on the major P2P's and, being different than most producers, I listen to every audition (at least a few seconds) and I read most of the comments the auditioners provide. It is amazing how many:

tell their life stories,
gush about themselves,
gush about me even though they don't know who I am,
give me a list of rate and use demands,
plead with me to hire them,
make excuses for why the read isn't so good,
use a form response that is emotionless.

I almost always ignore those people because they're showing something troubling about the their thinking that I'm sure will reflect in their performance and business dealings.

When someone says simply, "Thank you for listening, and here's my direct contact information", I know they're a pro.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce,

I agree. Looking desperate and pleading for the job is the worst thing you could do.

That pretty much tells them they can get you down in price (If a rate hasn't been set)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always try to personalize the response, so rather than... Hi, here's my audition for your project. it's always... Hi (insert name here), here's my audition for your (insert name of project here). I will then always confirm any specific requirements that they have mentioned in the text... As requested, I can supply the files in 48kHZ, 24-bit, AIFF format and have Skype for on-line direction.

I only vary from this format when there is a clear indication in the request that it would be welcomed or warranted. There are sometimes clear indicators that they are pushing their own style or humour to look for someone simpatico. This is a rare judgement call and I always err on the side of the straight, but personalized, response.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the opportunity - if i'm close, but not exact - let me know and i can tweak it for you.

more demos
contact info
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an agency that I work with that let me hear the auditions that came through Voices.com for a project they were doing. I listened to all 113 of them. The majority of them slating with name, job number and other information that was needless. Doesn't the voice caster know what job he's listening to? After a while you just wanted to claw your ears off. After slating, one guy even cleared his throat! JUST GET ON WITH THE READ... PLEASE!!!

I don't personalize and I don't slate. I didn't do it before my experience and the experience just reaffirmed, WHY I don't personalize and I don't slate. I just thank them for the opportunity, contact info and website.
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Bish
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Rick... I never slate unless it has been requested that I do. The only exception is where there is a lack of direction and I felt that I needed to give two reads (or multiples have been requested). I'll indicate this in the text, but also give it a quick "take 1". This is a rare exception, but sometimes I feel it warranted.

Also, as Todd says, if the job is attractive, I'll put myself on the slab for a second shot... this has often paid off.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try to keep it short and sweet.

*Thanks for opening the audition
*Some credits similar to the project being cast that I done.
*I can provide files in the requested format
*My contact info, both email and mobile phone.

That's pretty much it. I do slate...but just my name, quickly at the top.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When someone says simply, "Thank you for listening, and here's my direct contact information", I know they're a pro.


That's good to hear, because here is my standard audition greeting:

"Thanks for listening!

Rob
513-312-3661 "
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have an agency that ...let me hear the auditions ... for a project they were doing


That seems highly unethical. You don't want your Doctor, Lawyer, Clergy, or Accounting sharing your stuff with others. Why should an agent do that?

From the prospective of a recording engineer studio/location, some time files get separated from the folder or washtub they are stored in. A quick audio slate with talents name and job shouldn’t piss off folks all the much.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Gambill wrote:
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I have an agency that ...let me hear the auditions ... for a project they were doing


That seems highly unethical. You don't want your Doctor, Lawyer, Clergy, or Accounting sharing your stuff with others. Why should an agent do that?


Because I was part of the project and my ears were imperative to the end result.

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From the prospective of a recording engineer studio/location, some time files get separated from the folder or washtub they are stored in. A quick audio slate with talents name and job shouldn’t piss off folks all the much


I put the job title and my name in the file name in case it get's separated or passed down the line to someone else.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to hear that. It seemed on first read like a "You aught to hear this deal" and I hope you agree that only those who have an intrest should be privy to hearing those files.

Meta data is wonderful, a simple audio slate should only occupy a few seconds and there is no interruption of work flow. Seem to me that engineers still do audio slated. But as is know by all “What will be … Will be”
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That seems highly unethical.


i've been asked to do the same thing - it didn't seem unethical at all to me - the agency hired me to cull the 200 auditions down to 5 - then pass those 5 on to them. seemed pretty straight up.
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