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mcm Smart Kitteh

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Posts: 2600 Location: w. MA, USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject: OT: The future of music |
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My kids seem to enjoy the music of the Beatles and Simon & Garfunkle & Arlo Guthrie more than they like most of the stuff offered up to the masses these days. I am totally not "up on" modern music - of musicians & bands you hear now, whose music do you think people will still be listening to in 20, 30, 40 years?
I look forward to your responses - I could really use an education.
p.s. I've been thinking about this so much lately I almost forgot it was chezdan, sometime visitor to this board, who brought it up in the first place. Need to give credit where due! |
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Dan-O The Gates of Troy

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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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If you really want to discover "new" (new to you, not necessarily recently released) music, I highly recommend Pandora. It will ask you for a song or artist, then create an entire radio station based on the style of music you gave. It will give you the option of fine tuning the station with likes and dislikes or you can just let it roll and experience artists you never knew existed. |
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Rognog Flight Attendant

Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 807 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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I second Pandora. It's an incredible site! That's how I discovered artists like Frou Frou, The Hives, and Bruce Cockburn and rediscovered bands like Depeche Mode and Radiohead. The power of that site comes from the ability to customize radio stations based on musical composition, not genre. It made me realize that there are certain rhythms, tones, etc. that I gravitate to even when the music styles of the songs they have in common are wildly different. _________________ Tom Dheere - The "H" is Silent, but I'm Not!
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Hart Assistant Asylum Chief

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mcm Smart Kitteh

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Posts: 2600 Location: w. MA, USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm. So far it's just giving songs by the artists whose names I enter, not ones with similar styles - which I wouldn't be looking for to answer this question anyway.
Nice for finding music you already know you like though. |
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Drew King's Row

Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1118 Location: Tumbleweed Junction, The Republic of North Texas
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't been to Pandora for a long time. Been too busy. It IS most cool. _________________ www.voiceoverdrew.com
Skype: andrew.hadwal1
Although I have a full head of hair, I'm quite ribald. |
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TC Club 300
Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 397 Location: Iowa City
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: OT: The future of music |
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mcm wrote: | My kids seem to enjoy the music of the Beatles and Simon & Garfunkle & Arlo Guthrie more than they like most of the stuff offered up to the masses these days. I am totally not "up on" modern music - of musicians & bands you hear now, whose music do you think people will still be listening to in 20, 30, 40 years? |
I'd guess the Beatles and Simon & Garfunkel and Arlo Guthrie.
I'm only half-kidding, but only because I'm not up on pop music today either. But that's an interesting question for any era. I sat here and tried to think of which acts, from the days when I really followed and cared about pop music (roughly mid-70s to about 1990), would transcend their era.
The only definitive answer I could think of was Michael Jackson. I think some of his music will stand the test of time. But who else? REM? U2? Madonna? Led Zeppelin? Pink Floyd? The Who? I don't know.
If there's any sense left in the world, kids 40 years from now will be listening to XTC and They Might Be Giants and calling it genius. And I'll jab my cane at them and say, "I told you so!"
Did anybody in 1966 over the age of 16 know that the Beatles' music would be considered classic stuff 40 years down the road?
Of course, this is still not coming anywhere close to answering your question, mcm. But it was fun for me to think about for a few minutes... |
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dhouston67 VO-BB Intarwebz Glossary Administrator

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 1166 Location: Right next door to Sandra Bullock. No, really.
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Dan-O The Gates of Troy

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1638
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to swing the thread slightly in a different direction without addressing your question first. My answer would be: God only knows.
With the way technology is moving, the standard approach to making a song, let alone an artist, a mainstream hit with the masses is becoming extremely difficult. MP3 players, the internet, file sharing, My Space and the like have created small niches in music, that radio and TV could never satisfy. Sure, satellite and HD radio are going to give it a shot, but the playlist is now in the hands of the audience, instead of the record companies and programmers. A lot of the young people today have turned their backs on the standard media outlets for music, for the simple reason of "I don't want someone forcing me to listen to something I don't want to and then telling me it's cool."
So, how will an artist get there music to the masses? By doing what they do best: Be creative. Those who are in-the-know know that "word of mouth marketing" is the wave of the future. For example, the band OK Go, whom Deirdre introduced us to a while back (see thread http://www.vo-bb.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1612&highlight=treadmills). The only marketing they have are those two videos on You Tube. That's it. But, the buzz they have generated has forced the mainstream media to pay attention and start playing the song on the radio. Trust me, I doubt anyone in radio would have payed attention to them without a major record company pushing them. But, they used their heads, did something original and we all know who they are now.
The coolest thing about all of this is that great music will now be able to rise on its own power. The only thing we need to remember is to feed the musicians by purchasing the music or go to see them live.
Wow, that was a long rant for me. My honest answer to the 40 year question would be Wild Stallions. Most excellent! |
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allensco Flight Attendant

Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 823 Location: Alabama, USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Dan-O wrote: | Wow, that was a long rant for me. My honest answer to the 40 year question would be Wild Stallions. Most excellent! |
Yo dude, would that be Wyld Stallions with Bill and Ted? Heh heh...still a cool movie
Remember, "Be Excellent To Each Other!" |
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billelder Guest
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:00 am Post subject: |
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I think the music we love will still be around. I'll be about 80 and I fully expect to still be listening to the tunes I love. My younger friends appreciate the finer music of the 70's, understanding there was a lot of crap too.
I see great hope for the future of music. Some friends of mine have a band named The Ellison-Bier Band. William Ellison and I do a podcast every couple of weeks which is mostly just fun for us. He seems to think CD's won't exist much longer as all his friends are swapping and downloading music made by various bands. He may be right. And, just as we can do voiceovers at home using todays technology, bands can record in their own studios and make really decent sounding tunes. It is so big here that a local station has a Sunday night program named "Home Grown" where they play an hour of nothing but local music.
I know my info reads K-Mart but I'm really in Macon, Georgia, considered by many to be the home of Southern Rock. Well, we were the epicenter for a while in the 70's. (I was honored to narrate the "Tribute To Phil Walden" radio special for the Georgia Music Hall Of Fame this year.)
We are in a unique period in music. This generation has respect and love for the same music I did in the 70's. Here I am, 52 years old going to a Wet Willie concert with a 20 and 28 year old. We went backstage to meet Jimy Hall and he aksed what kind of music EBB played? William said, "Dare I say Wet Willie?" Hall said "That's great! That is the way our music lives on," and encouraged them to continue. It was a nice moment.
The next generation of rock may not be exactly the same, but I'll bet it'll be good. Look at Deirdre's son's band. They're great. I live with the hope the next generation of rockers will be just as deaf as we are. <g>
Also, Archive.org has loads of bands on there. |
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Dan-O The Gates of Troy

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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: |
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-----ooops. thought i hit edit. |
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Audiogal King's Row
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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I enjoy Pandora as well. It's funny, if you tell it you dislike something, it will immediate throw on one of your listed artists. You do have to listen awhile before they gradually throw in some unfamiliar artists. Very subtle.
Now, onto comments about Mary's question. Today, with everyone listening to their own iPods...people's tastes are quite varied. We baby boomers who had the whole shared experience of listening to the same DJ's & records as everyone else...well, the music was our language. In a way, we all spoke the same language. Today, people are likely fluent in many musical languages. Makes it harder to pinpoint any one artist who will stand the test of time. _________________ Mary |
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billelder Guest
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:56 am Post subject: |
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You are right about that. Music was THE voice for my generation. There was no other way to be heard. I'm still trying to figure out why Country music today sounds like Top 40? It's just wrong, I tell ya! |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Jeez, Bill-- I'd ask the same thing about the Adult Contemp stuff. Why is there so much Country influence? _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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