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Greengate
Joined: 27 Jun 2012 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject: How to tone down a sibilant voice? |
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Moved to Chat ~Deebs
Hi people!
Not sure if this post belongs in this subforum - apologies if it doesn't - but I wanted to ask: Does anyone here find that they stress their "s" and "t" sounds when trying to enunciate clearly - and what do you do about it?
I *think* I do this - though it's hard to tell based on playing a recording back, because all I have right now is a speakerphone/speaker/mic all in one (it could be exaggerating things, but I really don't know).
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jsgilbert Backstage Pass

Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 468 Location: left coast of u.s.
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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You can practice and practice and still wind up with sibilance. SOme microphones will pronounce even the slightest bit, such as the Heil PR 40. Certain mic pre's can also cause sibilance to be more pronounced and compressing audio without applying special notches or parameters can also cause sibilance. I'd suggest playing around to get one you seem to sound best on. Of course practicising diction and attempting to curb your sibilance can't hurt, however...
Spitfish is a free de-esser that will work with most pc recording programs. There are a ton of others. free and at all price points. Here's a link to SPitfish.
http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem=5
For paid de-essers, I find the Sonnox Oxford Supresser Plug-in ($180) to be pretty incredible.
http://mixonline.com/gear/reviews/review-sonnox-oxford-supresser/index.html _________________ j.s. gilbert
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Frank F Fat, Old, and Sassy

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 4421 Location: Park City, Utah
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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A bit cheaper tip is the pencil. Yes, a simple pencil, held in between your teeth horizontally for a few minutes (while practicing a short script) will change how your lips form around the sibilant consonant's.
Just do not try this with the pencil being vertical.
Another quick tip from the FREE "Poor Man's Voice Over-ist Instruction Booklet".
Frank F _________________ Be thankful for the bad things in life. They opened your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to before. email: thevoice@usa.com |
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7977 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Frank F wrote: | Another quick tip from the FREE "Poor Man's Voice Over-ist Instruction Booklet". |
Now included for FREE with every Ronco Voice Over Beginner's microphone, now just $49.95! (plus shipping and handling) But that's not all! You also get....
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Frank F Fat, Old, and Sassy

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 4421 Location: Park City, Utah
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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But wait! If you act now we will also send you a great big extra large bag of HOT AIR! But don't delay this is a special limited time offer.
F2 _________________ Be thankful for the bad things in life. They opened your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to before. email: thevoice@usa.com |
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ccpetersen With a Side of Awesome

Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 3708 Location: In Coherent
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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But, this is an election year, so hot air futures are kinda depressed. There's so much of it, it drives the price down. _________________ Charter Member: Threadjackers Local 420 |
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Scott Lyle Contributor IV

Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 109 Location: Greensboro, NC, home of the ACC
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe this pencil could come with a certain soon-to-be-released book as a multi-purpose tool; underliner and de-esser.
scott
Note: said pencil would have to be sharpened first before being used to underline any potentially beneficial information in said book. Don't poke your eye out, kid! |
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Lee Gordon A Zillion

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6864 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: How to tone down a sibilant voice? |
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Greengate wrote: | all I have right now is a speakerphone/speaker/mic all in one |
Taking a brief detour from the humor, I'd like to make the serious suggestion that you really shouldn't be judging your vocal quality or making any adjustments to your delivery based on your recordings until you have equipment that can accurately (more or less) reproduce your sound. _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
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Monk King's Row

Joined: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 1152 Location: Nestled in the Taconic Hills
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Lee beat me to it.
You may not have a real sibilant voice, but your microphone may have a sibilance problem.
There are a lot of "cheaper" microphones out there, that should "eshy"
and a "speakerphone/speaker/mic" is my first guess of the culprit. Try out a broadcast microphone and tell us what you hear. Either a Shure SM7 or Electrovoice RE-20... Head to Guitar center or a local music store with a good microphone selection and see what differences you can hear. _________________ Company, villainous company, hath been the spoil of me...
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Greengate
Joined: 27 Jun 2012 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys,
Sorry for the EXTREMELY late reply to this thread! I guess "life" just got in the way (along with my last computer dying and needing to be replaced). Just wanted to thank you all for your suggestions. |
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Mike Harrison M&M

Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 2029 Location: Equidistant from New York City and Philadelphia, along the NJ Shore
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:37 am Post subject: |
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With Lee's comment in mind, do your listening using speakers that provide fairly flat response and ensure there is no EQ being used anywhere in the playback chain.
If there is EQ and/or compression in use in the chain between your mic and computer, they could be exacerbating an issue which, otherwise, may not be nearly as noticeable.
If you are recording that way, try disengaging all the processing before doing another recording and then check the results. _________________ Mike
Male Voice Over Talent
I have taken leave of my sensors.
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kkuhlken Club 300

Joined: 29 Feb 2012 Posts: 348 Location: Dallas, GA (Metro Atlanta-ish)
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Frank F wrote: |
Just do not try this with the pencil being vertical.
Frank F |
Ok, I did it with the horizontal pencil, but the lead keeps stabbing my uvula. Should i try the eraser in the back? _________________ My full name is Karl Kuhlken (think Macauly Culkin...it rhymes)
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Lee Gordon A Zillion

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6864 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Greengate wrote: | Just wanted to thank you all for your suggestions. |
I plan to re-open this thread in 2016 and say, "You're welcome."  _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7977 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:45 am Post subject: |
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kkuhlken wrote: | ... but the lead keeps stabbing my uvula. |
I'm thinking we should move this to the Medical section.
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Dayo Cinquecento

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 544 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:10 am Post subject: |
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Seriously though, has anyone actually proved that the pencil trick works on sibilants? Tried it loads of times on different mics, using different methods of fixing etc. I'm starting to think that it's all a big myth.... _________________ Colin Day - UK Voiceover
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