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Hestoft Contributor

Joined: 11 Jul 2010 Posts: 39
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:16 am Post subject: Re-intoduction and LF Rolloff questions |
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Hello All,
My name is Ralf-Finn Hestoft and I am a photographer and wanna-be VO actor based in Chicago. I was active here a couple of years ago and got a ton of help in building my booth and with gear choices and was very appreciative. However, I kind of faded for a while, but now I am back!
My questions are as follows. My booth is in my basement and, for some reason, has just a ton of LF rumble, probably due to my proximity to a busy street and a factory. I have managed to get my noise floor down to -51db, which I regard as somewhat of a miracle.
I just purchased a new mic (AKG C414) and am finding that I can reduce the noise floor even further using the LF rolloff switches on the mic. A 40hz cutoff gets the noise floor down to -54db and using the 80hz cutoff makes things even quieter.
Two questions: Am I loosing anything in using the 80hz cutoff since I have a somewhat deep male voice? Also, is the mic the best place to activate any LF cutoff, or should I use my pre (Sound Designs USB2) or a plugin in Audition?
Thanks in advance for any and all help!
Ralf-Finn _________________ Ralf-Finn Hestoft
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graemespicer Been Here Awhile

Joined: 25 Feb 2012 Posts: 243 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:32 am Post subject: |
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In my opinion, there is very little usable signal below 100Hz, even for the deepest of male voices. I have a variable high pass filter on my preamp, and leave it set at 100Hz all of the time. I live near a very active streetcar line in Toronto, so eliminating all of that low end junk before it hits my DAW has been a big advantage.
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy

Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: In the souls of a million jeans
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:58 am Post subject: |
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I use the 80hz cut on my pre, and I think it helps my sound. The only things you really need to allow those frequencies for are bass (whether software or real) instruments. It just adds mud to a mix if a voice is recorded with those frequencies. Now a voice all by its lonesome can have those left in, but it is definitely not necessary. The human voice really doesn't have a huge spectral range. If it'll drop your noise by 10db, absolutely do it (IMHO). |
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Bish 3.5 kHz

Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:09 am Post subject: |
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I agree with the preceding comments. I have the 18dB/octave 75Hz filter engaged on my mixer. I prefer this to using the mic-option filter, but I can't really say why. _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
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asnively Triple G

Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 3204 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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I roll off at 100.
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7977 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:24 am Post subject: |
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I roll off the low frequencies only when I don't want the elephants to hear me.
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Hestoft Contributor

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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the replies and the welcome! It sounds like 80hz it is for me!
Ralf-Finn _________________ Ralf-Finn Hestoft
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heyguido MMD

Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 2507 Location: RDU, the Geek Capitol of the South
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | only when I don't want the elephants to hear me. |
Most of my clients aren't pitching to elephants. +1 on the rolloff. Makes it easier to hear the rest of your voice. _________________ Don Brookshire
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Dayo Cinquecento

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 544 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: |
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I often use 3 stages of high pass filters. That's just junk down there - get rid of it. _________________ Colin Day - UK Voiceover
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Leslie Humble Contributor IV

Joined: 03 Jan 2012 Posts: 145 Location: Cape Coral Fl
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like you're getting the right advice to me. I always roll off 50Hz and sometimes 80Hz. Even though the VOG is a Holy Grail, you still don't need it. It frees up frequency space that can be used for other things. There is only so much to go around. That is why you will find "dipping" or "scooping" of one frequency to allow the voice to reside in a private place that makes it stand out. There is only so much frequency room. I remember the great LaFontaine once telling me that one reason for his success was that his voice "resided in a place few others could go." Besides the acolytes of VOG, the Tenor voices also profit from rumble and trash being removed. I find I do not want over 80 removed however, as something good can still live from 80 to 100.. _________________ There are rules to the Universe. Learn them and prosper. www.HumbleVoiceover.com |
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