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JK Audio Inline Patch and Source Connect

 
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Mike McGonegal



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: JK Audio Inline Patch and Source Connect Reply with quote

Hi All!

I've got a question that may either end up being impossible to answer, or exceedingly simple...

First, the question: Is there a way to way to set up a Source Connect session so that the client (on the prod. house end) can listen in remotely via JK Audio's Inline Patch?

Next, the problem: When it's just me and the studio, going SC to SC - it works perfectly, as expected. However, when the client is patched in via the JK, I hear myself coming back at me with about an :03 delay. In talking with the engineer, our thought is that due to the nature of the JK, anything going in on the 'input' becomes part of the signal path and hence appears on the output of the box, back to me...

Are we pretty much hosed with this setup, or is there a way to set things up so that I can hear the client, but not myself?

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
-Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Mike,

hope I understand your question/problem correctly.
You can't hook SC directly to a phone patch - SC works with SC only*. But sure, if whoever is on the other end of the SC connection has a phone patch, they can direct the sound wherever they want. So, if someone is to "listen in" on the SC-session via a phone patch, your producer should hook it up as he would usually do (I asume he has a mixer), and the client should hear whatever the producer chose to send his way, but to be honest I don't understand why you get the delay.... of course, if the client is listening on monitors, you would get a feedback.

(* I know SC is bridgeable with ISDN, but I asume that's not relevant in this case...)
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Mike McGonegal



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacob - sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I'm so used to newsgroups giving you a "You've got a reply" message that I forgot to look at this until just now.

You're correct in your thinking - the engineer at the production house wants to figure a way out to not only route my signal to the creatives listening via patch (the easy part), but also their signal back to me - sans echo.

I think what it may come down to is the degree of 'separation' on the signal coming back at the box from the far end. According to the docs on the inline patch, there's only a 20dB delta between your own voice and the caller on the other end. Apparently, 'broadcast' models have 50db separation...

Worse comes to worse we do a dual patch/SC session. Annoying, but workable...

Thanks for the help - and have a Merry Christmas!
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