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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:34 am    Post subject: Pro Tools MP3 Export Options Reply with quote

Just started using Pro Tools 8LE for their punch in option while doing audio books. Couldn't get the punch and roll macro in AA3 to work. Pro Tools saves the WAV file by exporting it or bouncing it out in real time. Like a 15 minute file takes 15 minutes to save a WAV file. Does the MP3 Export Option that sells for $20 at Sweetwater save the file faster? How long will it take to export a 15 minute MP3 file?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - bouncing every track can be time consuming, to say the least Smile

I think this should work - I'm in PT10, but should work in PT8LE too.

Make sure your 'regions' list is visible ... if you don't see your regions listed on the right side, then click the little 'arrow/vertical line' icon in the very bottom right corner of the PT window.

Click the region you want to save in the edit window. You'll see that the name of the region will automatically be highlighted in the regions list. Right click the highlighted region name, and select 'export clips as files' from the popup menu. Then things should become self-explanatory. No bouncing, and your 15 minute file will probably save in a minute or less. Depends on the processing power of your Mac.

I seem to remember in earlier versions of ProTools that the ability to export as an MP3 was not automatically included. Had something to do with the developers not wanting to pay licensing fees. You had to buy a little plugin separately and install it to turn on MP3 export capability.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avid still sells the MP3 export option. I helped a friend get it downloaded and installed a few weeks ago for his PT 8 LE system. It was a muther though because he had already used a trial of it. Pro Tools 9 and above has the MP3 export option built in.

As for exporting, yes, just highlight the region you want to export, right click on it, and go.

I recorded a quick screencast of this for someone else awhile back. Maybe this will be helpful for you too.

http://youtu.be/JZqj5D12WY0
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After creating Fades and when you consolidate clips...rename the file (it will show up as highlighted after consolidating clips is completed) I usually rename the clip as Title_CH#.

Save. I usually open Audition 6.0 to do editing, so I would OPEN the Pro Tools Session/Audio Files Folder and look for the Name of File I just renamed.

No bouncing necessary. After Editing in Audition 6.0 I save the file as a .wav in folder on desktop. OR you can save as mp3. Better is to import wave to i-Tunes and convert to mp3 in that software. For some reason Audible likes i-Tunes better than most mp3 converters...don't know why.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's strange. I can bounce a track or a selection of clips in Cubase in just a few seconds. Exporting a 35-minute chapter as WAV or MP3 takes about 15 seconds.

Is there something I'm not understanding? Requiring a track to bounce in real-time seems like a strange thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyclometh wrote:
Is there something I'm not understanding? Requiring a track to bounce in real-time seems like a strange thing.


Yep. That's the bane of Pro Tools. Mixes are done in real-time because there could be outboard gear being used. It was designed with music production in mind, taking the tape mindset and creating the digital equivalent of it. Think back to the days of mixing down to a 2 track machine. That's what it is.

For music, this may be fine. Even for :30 or :60 commercial production it may be OK. For dry voice though, it blows.

The solution is to consolidate regions/clips to one clip and then export just that to disk. This does not require listening back; it's just a quick render like most other programs. Once you get the hang of it, it's not too bad. However, it is way more complicated than our simple VO needs require, which is why a lot of folks prefer Sound Forge or Twisted Wave. (Or Cubase. Smile )
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In order to get the audio out of ProTools without doing a Bounce To Disk, you want to Export the Clip (in PT8 it's a Region) as File. If the file has been "Consolidated", then Shift-Command-K and this will bring up a dialogue box for Exporting the region as a file...choose your format & destination and you're all done. Here's a video for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plKMeJKqVZQ
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agettig wrote:
. Mixes are done in real-time because there could be outboard gear being used.


Ah! Now that makes more sense. I was racking my brain trying to figure out why it would do that, and of course that's the reason.

One would think there would be a way to tell Pro Tools "Oi! No external hardware, get on with it!" in the bounce process.

Thanks for the explanation!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

However, it is way more complicated than our simple VO needs require, which is why a lot of folks prefer Sound Forge or Twisted Wave. (Or Cubase. )

Which is why after having bought PT8 and the Mbox2 for the punch and roll function, I am selling off the gear and going back to AA3 with some changed keystrokes. It is overkill for simple VO.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: Pro Tools MP3 Export Options Reply with quote

My Pro Tools is set up to record WAV's. After the session is finished and edited, I consolidate all the pieces into one master piece, then re-name it by double clicking on the edited file. Exit the session. Go into your Audio Files folder for that session, and your WAV file will be waiting for you. No bouncing necessary.

To create an MP3 you need to bounce using the $20 software offered by Pro Tools, and that takes place in real time.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Pro Tools MP3 Export Options Reply with quote

jasbart wrote:
To create an MP3 you need to bounce using the $20 software offered by Pro Tools, and that takes place in real time.


you can export and create an Mp3 in the export region as file option in the region bin... no real time bounce required...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Pro Tools MP3 Export Options Reply with quote

That's correct. However if you are applying any kind of RTAS plug-in (eq, compression, echo, etc) you have to do it in real time. Everything I do, with the exception of long-form audio where the client specifically requests that I NOT sweeten, has at least a taste of, say RTAS compression.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Pro Tools MP3 Export Options Reply with quote

Why not process it in AudioSuite?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Pro Tools MP3 Export Options Reply with quote

I use the Audio Suite plugins very sparingly. I'll use Normalizing occasionally; if I'm doing music I'll use pitch control; mostly I'll use time compression for over-written voiceover scripts.

The time it takes to bounce to an mp3 isn't an issue for me. I do a lot of short announces for TV stations; any longer form audio that's being compressed and sent as an mp3, is sent in chunks of around 5 minutes. Plus I'm able to give a final quality control listen during the bounce.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same for me, Jim. Send all buses into a master (with any applied plug-ins), then export that. I stopped doing regular bounces ages ago, after noticing that it really messed with sound quality.
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