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Lee Gordon A Zillion

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6864 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:50 am Post subject: What's an Hour? |
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I got an audition this morning (perhaps some of you got the same one) for a job that is listed as paying $300/hour.
It's described as a "series consisting of six 1-hour episodes, of which about 15 minutes will require your voice." I'm going to cut through the first bit of ambiguity and say that it's 15 minutes of VO per episode, not for the entire series. But beyond that, are they paying $300 per hour of my time? If so, it might be worth doing.
Or are they paying $300 for the narration for one of those 1-hour episodes, or worse, for one hour of finished VO? Either of those choices seem hardly worth getting out of bed for, especially since it's for a series on a national cabel network. _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
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heyguido MMD

Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 2507 Location: RDU, the Geek Capitol of the South
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Assume the best. If presented with the worst, say NO. Next?  _________________ Don Brookshire
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Kristin Lennox Flight Attendant

Joined: 30 Apr 2011 Posts: 858
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:26 am Post subject: |
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If I were to bet, I'd guess they meant $300 per episode.
But it's worth pursuing to get the clarification -- $300 per studio hr isn't too bad.  _________________ Always look on the bright side of life.
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper

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Bailey 4 Large

Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 4336 Location: Lake San Marcos... north of Connie, northwest of the Best.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:57 am Post subject: |
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That's Jeffrey... always reading the last page of the novel first. _________________ "Bailey"
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Lee Gordon A Zillion

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6864 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:50 am Post subject: |
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JeffreyKafer wrote: | Why are we guessing? Ask the client. |
It was from a P2P where there is no opportunity to ask the client. Your one and only chance to communicate (unless they contact you) is when you submit your audition. In this instance, even the best case scenario would not have been worth taking a day to travel into NYC to do. That made it very easy to "be selective" and drop this particular lead into the trash.
I guess the point of my posting was to whinge about people being less than precise in their job descriptions (i.e "an hour," "two pages," etc.). _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
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Bish 3.5 kHz

Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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For ambiguous requests, I always answer as unambiguously as possible... usually starting... "I was slightly confused by the quoted budget and I have taken it to mean (blah blah blah) and that is reflected in my bid."
I think Kristin is right and it would translate into $300 per episode... for 15 mins of finished audio for a cable documentary it's floating-away light, but that would still be $300 a work-hour assuming a 4:1 production ration.
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Bob Bergen CM
Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 981
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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I don't do P2P and don't know protocol. But is it possible to audition and if they want to hire you, then get clarification on the fees??? And, if they really want you, counter if you don't like their clarified offer. |
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper

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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Depends on the P2P, Bob. But in general, no. You bid on the project as posted. I think it's considered bad form to modify once the electronic handshake is done. _________________ Jeff
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Lee Gordon A Zillion

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6864 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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This particular job is being recorded in New York, which would have required me to take the whole day to commute to & from the city and do the work. If all six episodes were being done in the same session for an $1800 afternoon, it might have been worth it but, again, this was just more information that was not spelled out clearly in the job posting. _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
Voice President of the United States
www.leegordonproductions.com
Twitter: @LeeGordonVoice
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