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Bill Roberts · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:56 am Post subject: Mavericks OS X - The new OSX

I just installed Mavericks OS X (released on the 22nd), then the drivers for the RME BabyFace it was a simple plug and play. Then the actual install of Protools 10.3 and Twisted Wave up and running in 15 minutes, and all works perfect. Now the big question...will Source-Connect work? Seems like this OS is running incredibly fast, could be a placebo effect of the new OS, or the fact that no other programs are installed on this system.
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Jason Huggins · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:39 am Post subject:

I wonder why Apple would make it free. That really doesn't seem like them at all. Hmmmm. I was planning on upgrading anyway, so that sure helped the decisions Smile

Mike Harrison · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:03 am Post subject:

If you rely daily on your audio software, it is always best to check the system requirements of that software (and any hardware) before updating your operating system. It's not easy – and in some cases may be impossible – to revert to the earlier OS version after the fact.

There's nothing like the completely helpless and frustrated feeling of not being able to offer, say, a Source Connect session (or, even worse, not be able to record at all) when you were able to before the update. Wink

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FinMac · Last edited by FinMac on Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:52 am; edited 1 time in total

Mike, you are right. My download of the new software knocked me for a loop.

My system worked fine BEFORE downloading the Maverick software, but now it does not work at all!

It could be that my old LCD monitor and the adaptor is the problem. Waiting for a new adaptor from Apple to come on Monday. And I HOPE that is the only problem.

Let the downloader beware!

Mac

UPDATE: Problem was the monitor adapter, that and an optical mouse did not work with the update. Now everything is in condition ' Laugh

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Jason Huggins · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:43 am Post subject:

I'm certainly waiting till at least the first update. All I've read so far indicates that all of my mission critical software and hardware is compatible, but I surely wouldn't take the chance without some testing and an easy way to revert.

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

I just did the upgrade and gotta say, system seems to be running smoother and faster. Had a brief hiccup with Mail and Address Book (Address Book becomes "Contacts") but they resolved quickly.

Also did a Source Connect echo test and it's working perfectly as as far as I can tell.

dbeers · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:56 pm Post subject:

Avid has posted a knowledgebase article warning Pro Tools users and those with Avid hardware not to upgrade to Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks. Sadly those needing to read and take this advice have perhaps already proceeded, if you are smart enough to wait a while then here is the advice.

It is not recommended to use Media Composer, Pro Tools or Sibelius with Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) as they are not supported at this time.

The uninstaller for Pro Tools 10.3.7 and earlier will not work on Mac OS X 10.9. For this reason Avid does not recommend using Pro Tools 10.3.7 or earlier with Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). PTSW-185438.

Increased -6101 errors with Pro Tools 11.0.2 and earlier using Built-In sound output on Mac OS X 10.9. Pro Tools 11.0.x may encounter AAE error 6101 and Pro Tools 10.3.7 and earlier may encounter DAE error 6101 when using the built in sound output on the Mac with OS X 10.9. This occurs with high frequency at HW Buffer sizes: 32, 64 and 128. It occurs with lower frequency at HW Buffer sizes: 256, 512 and 1024. This occurs with Error Suppression enable and disabled in the Playback Engine. The error message is, “A CPU overload error occurred.” PTSW-186179.

Read more: http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2013/10/22/avid-warn-not-to-upgrade-to-os-x-109-mavericks.html#ixzz2ixS3rQyS

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

had to update some software (Apogee and SnapZ X Pro) but other than that smooth sailing

georgethetech · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:27 pm Post subject:

Please DO share your experiences with 10.9, because that his helpful for everyone.

Please DO backup/clone your system drive before playing with this shiny new toy.

But...

Please DON'T suggest that it's a good idea to make this major system upgrade to a production machine at version ZERO! This is would be BAD ADVICE. I wouldn't dare touch it until at least 10.9.2 or 10.9.3.
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Jason Huggins · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:23 pm Post subject:

After a complete backup and research relating to my hardware and software, I decided to take the jump. I had an easily restorable backup, so there really wasn't any risk other than lost time if I had to go back.

I am happy to report that I had no issues installing (and I was going from 10.7), no issues with any software or hardware, and am excited to have a dock and menu bar on both screens.

All mission critical software is working 100%. Adobe Audition CS6, Source Connect, Skype, Chrome, Crashplan Backup, Dropbox Desktop A Hobo Tounge

, Team Viewer, Studio One 2, Better Zip, Transmit FTP, and QuickBook Mac 2012 are all 100% good on my system.

Now I just need to change the wave background. I get depressed when I start thinking about surfing. Not much of that in Colorado.

Jason Huggins · Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:11 am Post subject:

One thing that I noticed as soon as I started editing some large files in AA CS6 is how fast the spectral view is rendering. Prior to the update, I always had to wait for files over about 30 minutes as they rendered. Now, the rendering is a substantial amount faster.

The other thing I noticed is that it now renders AFTER the section is on the screen. I used to be able to scroll left and right and the spectral display never had to catch up, now, when scrolling to the left or right, the waveform is present but the spectral display has a bit of a delay in displaying what was previously off the screen. This means that while quickly jumping to the left or right, it is a bit more difficult to search for something you are looking for because you can't see the entire display until it redraws. I'm guessing that this is part of the speed increase. Less information is loaded to free up resources at the expense of the smooth scrolling that it used to have.

Bish · Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:21 pm Post subject:

This has now become an academic issue for me. Evidently my Intel MacPro1.1 is not supported. I can't say I'm broken up by this... I'm finding that Snow Leopard works just fine. I didn't go Lion because of the awful support for multiple screens and the funky way it crapped all over the file system.

... and my black MacBook is too old as well Smile

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Jason Huggins · Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:51 pm Post subject:

Found a flaw Smile

For some reason, every DAW I try is having metering issues. It's easy to work around, but for some reason every DAW peaks (and overdrivers) at -6db now while recording. Even though it's not a biggy, I'll be dropping back into my backup overnight tonight.

Anyone have any idea if there is a setting that could cause that globally in the system? According to Propellerhead, the Balance (which is the interface I'm using) is completely compatible with 10.9, so in theory that shouldn't be the issue.

georgethetech · Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:39 pm Post subject:

Jason, thanks for taking the time to do what I haven't had time to do myself!! Very much appreciated. I have it on a USB drive ready to go, even a partition awaiting the fresh OS, just have a problem finding time away from other projects (yet I still have time to be hanging out on vo-bb, hmmmm).
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Jason Huggins · Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:38 pm Post subject:

Well you have your priorities in the right place LOL

Any idea about the audio weirdness?