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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7977 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:17 am Post subject: |
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As far as auditions go, dry or not dry, which do you think I should send of the two choices below? On one file it's the same audition, first with about 6:1 compression and a tiny bit of gating, and it's followed by the same audio totally dry. I tried to set the average volume of both at -6db with a couple of peaks near 0db. They wanted something Sterling Holloway-esque.
https://soundcloud.com/bruce-miles/brucemiles-pick5test
Which, if either, would make the better impression on ad agency people you probably know nothing about?
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Chuck Davis M&M

Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 2389 Location: Where I love to be...Between the Vineyards and the Cows.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:40 am Post subject: |
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I always add a slight bit of compression to auditions. Just "ticking over" at 2:1.
Dry VO is just that. No EQ. No dynamics.
When I was sending stuff to the networks for Cip, he always wanted stuff sweetened. 4:1 compression and a tiny bit of EQ to make it pop a bit. After the first session or two, I guess he trusted my ears. _________________ Wicked huge.....in India.
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Ed Fisher DC

Joined: 05 Sep 2012 Posts: 605 Location: East Coast, U.S.A.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote: | Which, if either, would make the better impression on ad agency people you probably know nothing about? |
The first one. Hands down. IMHO.
Very illuminating. _________________ "I reserve the right to be completely wrong." |
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Bish 3.5 kHz

Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Some good points here... I think the main one to think about is "consider your audience". Bruce's example is perfect... if I was sending something to someone with no production skills or expertise (e.g.I just want to a a VO to the corporate video my boss has got me working on) ... Then number one is more impressive and ear-catching... far closer to a final product. However, if I was sending it to a production house, then I would assume they would see right through the processing, and prefer the dry take, knowing inherently what they could do with it. They may even be a tad annoyed at the "presumption" of me trying to do their job for them!
I usually like my auditions as dry as my martinis... just open the top of the vermouth five feet away and wave it around a bit. I never gate or noise process (I've got a good environment) but I will usually manually tame any stray peaks and when I feel it's appropriate, use my "just a tad" Adobe Audition compression preset (2:1 above -12dB). _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
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Bill Eshelman

Joined: 04 Oct 2011 Posts: 15 Location: Central PA
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Bruce, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks for the great example. From a producers standpoint, I personally wouldn't mind getting the file with a touch of common sense processing unless it is done badly which in that case I would ask for another take. I'm pretty easy going though. I could imagine some audio peeps getting all prissy about it and I just want to get paid without drama...
I think what this boils down to personally is that I don't like my dry reads. I need to start practicing more to get dry reads I am happy with and quit hiding behind compression and eqs. Dang, just pep talked myself... OK off to the booth.
Again thanks for all the input here! _________________ If you want to go further in life, take bigger steps. |
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captain54 Lucky 700
Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Lance Blair wrote: | I send auditions with 2:1 compression to reign in the peaks and keep a more consistent level and then a slight bump (2dB) at 2kHz and a dip from 250-400 Hz (again 2dB).
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exactly my fx chain although my dip is @ 500hz.. HiPass filter @ 75hz.. Waves RenVox Expander/Compressor at varying settings..
I send auditions processed and jobs with processing and without.. invariably the processed files are always used.. _________________ Lee Kanne
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Foog DC

Joined: 27 Oct 2013 Posts: 608 Location: Upper Canuckistan
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote: | Which, if either, would make the better impression on ad agency people you probably know nothing about? |
Thanks for that, Bruce! Whenever I try a bit of compression on my own tracks, I do a comparative listen through a reasonably good pair of headphones and the result, to my unedumacated ears, is rarely beneficial. So I tend to steer clear of it.
But I listened to your example on my terrible laptop speakers and noticed a HUGE difference that seemed subjectively "better". The compressed take really popped on lousy speakers. Then I thought to myself "I bet a most P2P clients are listening on crummy speakers too."
So you've inspired me to add a bit of compression, at least to my P2P auditions.
cheers,
Andrew Fogarasi |
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