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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:02 am    Post subject: Audiobook Newbie Reply with quote

I have a prospective audiobook job coming but I've never recorded audiobooks before. I'd like to get back to them soon with answers but needed some guidance here.
They had a couple questions for me and wanted to see if I could get some of you audiobook pros' input.
Their questions:
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- Do you have standard finished project delivery times? What is a typical turnaround?

Is this a '15 minute segments every day' answer or what's the kind of answer to this question?

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- Do you provide mastering of the finished file?

I've been producing audio in radio for almost 20 years but never 'mastered' anything.

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- What can we expect as far as ability to submit revisions or corrections?

I'm going to tell them that I can do any revisions they need until 2 weeks after completion of recording and submission.

Another question from me: rate is typically about $136 per completed hour. Since I'm recording, editing, mastering I'm going to charge $200. Does that seem fair?

Any input here would be greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the nature of your questions, I think you may not be ready for audiobooks. They are the marathon of VO. But the answers are as follows:

Question 1. What is your turnaround time? This should be easy to answer. How much audio can you complete daily? How long will it take you to do a 10 hour book?

Question 2. Mastering, if you've never mastered an audiobook, you'll want to outsource it. audible has very specific requirements for how audio should be compressed and normalized.

Question 3. Rate. Not sure where you got that 136 number, but it's low. Union rates are around $225 per finished hour, add another $75 for full production.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeffrey Kafer wrote:
Given the nature of your questions, I think you may not be ready for audiobooks.


Jeff, thanks for replying. I'm curious why you think I might not be ready for audiobooks?
I've down a TON of pro voiceover work just not audiobooks proper.
What am I missing?
I appreciate your input.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't really matter what I think in that regard. If you want to do audiobooks, then go for it. Just know that it is a completely different beast than regular VO work.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing Jeff isn't commenting on the quality of your narration, it's the lack of information you appear to have on producing audiobooks. There's a fair amount you need to know before you jump in. With some research here and elsewhere, such as the Audible.com site, you will learn everything you need to get started. Just know that it takes 4 to 6 hours of your time to record and edit each hour of an audiobook, depending on complexity and such. Divide that into you PFH rate and you'll see that we don't do them for the sacks of cash.

Mastering is a bit of a trick the first time even for experienced editors, but George Whittam has a good video lecture on how to do it Audible's way for a reasonable price.

Try these searches here:

audiobook

audiobook AND rate

audio AND book AND rate

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent. Bruce, Jeff. Thanks for the advice.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to expand on the turnaround time. Do not underestimate the length of time a finished hour will take. If you include the following items:

Pre-read, including character identification & development, and pronunciation research.
The actual read (either punch'n'roll or marking'n'removing)
Editing for final production.
Content proofing and pick-ups.
Mastering & QC

Others are much quicker, but my rough figure for a work of fiction is 6:1 ... an hour of finished taking a total of six hours (if you include all the prep time). That may equate to an hour a day, so basically if you don't allow an absolute minimum of two weeks for a 10-hour book (yes, I believe in weekends) you may be painting yourself into a corner.

At your nominal rate of $200 per finished hour, that pays you $33 per hour. Having done a number of them already, if someone asked me to do another fully finished 10-hour fiction, I'd probably run away screaming if it was anything under $300 (a nominal $50 per hour). Even if it was over that threshold, I would probably still run... but remember, the higher rate will allow you to outsource the editing & proofing. That can make all the difference.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and if you are really up against a wall, we've got this service to consider...
Highly recommended if you intend to take on the entire production from mic to MP3 yourself.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soundgun wrote:
...and if you are really up against a wall, we've got this service to consider...
Highly recommended if you intend to take on the entire production from mic to MP3 yourself.


Good/anxious news, I've been booked for my first Audiobook!
Excited for the new challenge. Thanks for your comments/tips and leads.
George, I might just hit you up on the 'Total Training' service. Do you guys support Reaper (by Cockos)? Where do I find the video lecture on doing it the Audible way?


To all: Is there some sort of producer/narrator agreement that I need to punch up for the client? He asked and I don't have an answer for him yet.
Also, do I deliver finished files by chapter?
Thank you again.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I am reading all of this correctly... particularly your most recent post... you guys are dealing directly with each other and you have no "publisher" or "agent" such as ACX between the two of you... and BOTH of you are NEWBIES at this. This may be an interesting ride.

If this a direct deal between you and the author... the answer to a lot of your questions is: What ever the two of you agree on when it comes to timing and turnaround and delivery dates.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vkuehn wrote:
If I am reading all of this correctly... particularly your most recent post... you guys are dealing directly with each other and you have no "publisher" or "agent" such as ACX between the two of you... and BOTH of you are NEWBIES at this. This may be an interesting ride.

If this a direct deal between you and the author... the answer to a lot of your questions is: What ever the two of you agree on when it comes to timing and turnaround and delivery dates.


Thank you vkuehn!
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