VO-BB - 20 YEARS OLD!

vkuehn · Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:18 pm Post subject:

Maybe this contribution to the conversation is almost a "thread-jack". We have another topic going currently about when to shape a process a recording.

So... is the ID22 simply an "honest broker" while other pre-amps tend to give members of the industry what designers know we want our voices to sound like? I once had a mentor tell me that "some times you are too honest for your own good." Maybe if he were around today, that would be his description of some of the better gear we have to choose from.

You have received some good observations on your recordings by the others and I don't have anything to add to those comments other than: I didn't expect the mics and audio chain that you revealed. Something doesn't add up.

Foog · Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:58 am Post subject:

I hope everyone will indulge me in one last comparison. This time it is a cleaner comparison. I used the same basic set up: both mics recording the same audio at once. But this time I didn't fumble about with an HPF post-recording (and didn't forget to turn off the HPF on the CAD). The only thing I did was normalize both tracks so that the volumes would be equal, and that's it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uag77oicat5z8uz/Sopron_sample.wav?dl=0

No "gotchas" here - I used the same order... CAD then Rodes. It may be the fact that I am not running two different HPF's this time, or the fact that I seem to have physically positioned myself a little closer to the Rode, but I think the difference is less intense. Still there, and still (to my not-finely-tuned ears) slanting in favour of the CAD. But it seems the Rode acquits itself better this time around.

Am I right, or is it wishful thinking?
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FinMac · Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:48 am Post subject: Toss-up!

Somebody get me a coin !
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Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

I haven't listened to the most recent files yet, but regarding pre-amps, there's a reason that most professional studios use outboard pres.....a good outboard pre does bring something to the party, not necessarily adding to the signal but enriching it in a harmonically pleasing way.

Based on the price, I would think the ID22 pres should be very good. That being said the slightly lower-end interfaces that I have owned (MOTU Ultralite, Apogee Duet, Focusrite Forte) have built in pres that are accurate but for me but also a little too clinical.

chuckweis · Contributor IV Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 136

Bill Campbell · DC Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 621

All samples posted sound boomy & bassy with poor articulation, not you the mic/space.

If I was producing your stuff, I would have to do a big bass roll-off, and pump up the highs from 5k-12k.

What are you using to monitor your tracks on playback? If you get your listening monitors right, you'll get your sound right.
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Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta

Mic 1. Go with the CAD.
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Foog · Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:09 pm Post subject:

Bob Stevens · Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:13 pm Post subject:

+1 what Bill said. Boomy yes. Environment or perhaps you may be addressing the mics too close or head on?

The CAD is sounding better than before with the HPF off and if I had to choose only between the two I would favor the CAD.

Bob
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