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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 8:50 am    Post subject: Acting? Voice Acting? Reply with quote

If you do nothing else today watch the video.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32679995

You can't act or deliver a performance if you feel nothing. Sometimes how you REALLY feel makes all the difference. Start with honesty and use illusion as a last resort.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While you can't deliver a performance without emotional life, you can't force the emotion or try to feel something.

In reality, some of the most powerful emotional performances come from NOT being emotional, from trying to maintain control when your world is falling apart. That's closer to being true and honest, as opposed to your garden variety blubbering sitcom or bad "wet" stage actor
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose I could've included 17 pages of notes to expand the random thought and what I saw in the reading - Honesty, nothing more, nothing less. Jane lost it a little but maintained enough control to read the letter. In the context of where she was, the audience and the particular letter there was no harm done. It was the difference between reading and someone realising the enormity of what they are reading which is why the tears, the reaction was real.

A great blog from the VO people in our world would be "50 Cringe worthy affected performances" - I know that we could all come up with at least one real shocker. In my case one would have to whittle "my performances" down to 50 and who has that much time on their hands? Laugh
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Acting? Voice Acting? Reply with quote

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Start with honesty and use illusion as a last resort.


This is the foundation of method acting. But it's why Meisner worked better for me. Meisner's definition of acting is, "Being honest/truthful under imaginary circumstances." Not feeling it, but conveying it honestly. Being able to be honest in the moment of faking it. In a perect world, we can feel it. But this technique doesn't resonate with everyone, including me. If you look at children in make believe, they are able to disregard reality and truly believe their imaginary play.

The bottom line is, the audience must believe us. Be it a cartoon, commercial, promo, narration, or on hold message. How you get there or achieve this as an actor is subjective and individual. But the truth and honesty in the end product must always be there. This is why I suggest actors study with everyone and taste every technique. When you find what works with you, it's like the world has opened up. When you apply it to vo, it's like a career has opened up.

I never knew Philip's technique. I just know he does it well. Nothing but truth and honestly in every read/ delivery. Brilliance! (And I'm a tough cookie to please!)
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob, thank you for the generous thought in the conclusion to your above post.

Now back to our top story ....

" When you find what works with you, it's like the world has opened up. When you apply it to vo, it's like a career has opened up. "

Everyone else find the right mic, change the tube in it, find the right pre costing over $2,000 and set it to compression 3:1 , Normalise +6db, Warm, Bass boost +9db, Soft Knee, Hard Ass, Noise Gate to NLBIFL (Neighbour's Leaf Blower is f***ing loud).
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: Acting? Voice Acting? Reply with quote

Bob Bergen wrote:
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Start with honesty and use illusion as a last resort.


This is the foundation of method acting. But it's why Meisner worked better for me. Meisner's definition of acting is, "Being honest/truthful under imaginary circumstances." Not feeling it, but conveying it honestly.


I've had a steady diet of Meisner for 30 + yrs, all the way back to Bill Esper's program in NYC…Meisner for me, is all about following your impulses and getting out of your own way, leaving your self alone.. leaving the notion of "performance" out of the picture.. I've had some exposure to the Strasberg oriented technique, and I found it be very heady, all internal, putting you back into yourself.. Strasberg was a technician, almost a scientist.. all of those Actors Studio legends that studied with him were already rock stars and uber talented, so I don't know how much validity there is they're owing their success to him..

The main approaches over the last 50 or so years, (Stella Adler, Uta Hagen, Meisner, Strasberg,) all riffed off their interpretation of Stanislavsky.. I think a combination of all is what most successful actors have ultimately incorporated..

I think the beauty of Meisner for the voice actor is that you get de-programmed from performing and rather living the circumstances and reacting impulsively from the text.. It becomes more about behavior than what you see on the printed page..
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