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FinMac · Last edited by FinMac on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:59 am; edited 1 time in total

Discovered this cable that works as a hpf at 60 Hz. Would this be of help or is it better to roll it off using a plug-in ?

Here is what they write on the website...The Rycote Tac!T (pronounced "Tas-It") filter is an in-line, active "third-order" (18dB/octave) filter with a "knee" at approximately 60Hz. This enables it to pass, unaffected, virtually all of the desired audio, while massively reducing wind and handling noise, and floor transmitted vibrations. The energy in these extreme low frequency and infrasonic sounds can be very high, and if not attenuated, would otherwise cause overloads and disturbances across the entire audio spectrum.

http://mymic.rycote.com/products/connboxes-cables/hi-pass-filter/cable-w_tact-filter-xlr-3f_3m-l45cm-x-48mm/

Any thoughts ?
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Bish · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:20 am Post subject:

Looks interesting. If you mic or preamp don't have it, this may be an interesting option for $99 (B&H price). Personally I'd prefer 24dB per octave, but 60Hz is usually the sweet spot (some mic/preamps with a filter set at 75/80/100Hz are a little brutal on the bottom end).
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DenaliDave · Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:56 pm Post subject:

Shure makes a filter that you can plug between your mic and interface that acts as a hpf as well ... Smile

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Ed Fisher · Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:51 pm Post subject:

FinMac · Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:16 pm Post subject: thanks but

Thanks for the input regarding the Shure hpf, but it rolls off at 100 Hz, which is too much imho for me.
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Ed Fisher · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:13 am Post subject:

FWIW....I was just watching a quick review on the Audient iD22 and noticed that it's HPF is also at 100HZ.

It occurs to me...perhaps what's important is how SHARP the EQ curve is in addition to WHERE it is located. I notice my DBX286A is at 80HZ.

Just throwing this into the mix. Laugh

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Bish · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:56 am Post subject:

I have the Audient iD22. I have a love/hate relationship with the HPF. I'm running a 416, so there's no on-board HPF so I have to either use the 100Hz on the iD22 (a little high for my liking) or do it in post. I vascillate. Maybe I should put my dbx286A in the chain and only use it for the HPF... 80Hz is far more to my liking Smile

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FinMac · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:24 am Post subject: 100 Hz is too much

Hei Bish, you, Jason Huggins and I should start a support group for those with the same feelings about the 100Hz filter on the iD22!

Otherwise it is a great interface!
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DenaliDave · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:22 pm Post subject:

On the Avalon M5 there's a HPF that goes from 25hz to 200hz. I find 70hz just about right for me.

There's always HPF's you can use inside your DAW like Audition, ProTools, TwistedWave or Logic. However, I find that a non-software HPF seems to just "work better".

Maybe it's just all in my head? Laugh

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FinMac · Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:58 am Post subject: Rycote Tac!t (update)

Updated this thread because I bought the Tac!t and decided to post a sample of it.

So I purchased the Rycote Tac!t, which is (In-line, active "third-order" (18dB/octave) filter with a "knee" at approximately 60Hz).

Don't know about the technical side, but I think it sounds pretty good with my set-up now. Any feedback it most welcome Smile

below is a sample...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1o8zkx0ula0jbxh/Neumann%20103%20Rycote%20Tac%21t%20iD22%20nor%20-3dB.wav?dl=0

Though the HPF on the iD22 is OK, it feels a little too much for my tastes. The HPF on the iD22 is -3dB @ 100Hz, 2nd Order (12dB/Octave). Below is a sample...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/daz4gxp19pw2pkz/Neumann%20103%20Rycote%20iD22%20with%20HPF%20nor%20-3dB.wav?dl=0
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Ed Fisher · Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:55 am Post subject:

I'm a bit surprised.

I would not have expected that there would be so much difference.

The first cut with the Rycote Tac!t sounded MUCH better to my ears.

By comparison the second one sounded...flat and brittle.

Your first one was smooth, well rounded, warm.

Ear Candy.

One man's (ear's) opinion.
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Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2279 Location: Atlanta

Yes, the 100 HPF doesn't sound as full - but it doesn't sound bad.

In a mix, how would each sound?

I'm getting the Shure HPF in the mail today. It has a -12 per octave slope which isn't too steep. I reckon that if I dial in +3 dB at 80 Hz on my Mackie Onyx it will be similar to a 70 Hz HPF at -12 slope roll-off. When I model that with the Parametric EQ in Audition, they are equivalent.

But yes, I'm joining the growing chorus that thinks that 100 Hz and even 80 Hz roll-offs are not pleasant.
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FinMac · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:11 am Post subject: Thanks for the feedback

Thanks Cutter and Lance for the feedback Smile

Lance, please post some samples when your Shure rolls in !
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