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juliaknippen Club 300

Joined: 25 Nov 2012 Posts: 348 Location: NYC
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:46 pm Post subject: Friday Mic Shootout: 416 vs. Mike Joly's RODE NT1a mod |
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So I finally got around to sending Mike Joly my old NT1A, and he did his magic to make it sound like a U87. One recording is with my 416 and the other is with my new modded mic. My ears are honestly no good at this.
http://www.juliaknippen.com/audio/mic1.mp3
http://www.juliaknippen.com/audio/mic2.mp3
I'm not telling you which is which. The both sound identical to me! I'd love to hear your thoughts. _________________ www.juliaknippen.com
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11074 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Not identical.
1 - Fuller sound.
2 - Crispy all the top and not much bottom
Can yer man make a mic sound like a U87? No.
Listen - https://soundcloud.com/philip-banks/pb20sec
All voiced on the inflexuless U87ai |
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juliaknippen Club 300

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, Philip!
#1 is the modded mic. #2 is the 416.
One thing is for sure - my voice on a U87 will never sound as good as yours on a U87!
xoxo _________________ www.juliaknippen.com
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Yours voice is different which does not make mine better. 1 - Like most "this is exactly what you are looking for" mics has been pre-affected, mic mods are full of bottom, tweaked to sound like compression has been added and sound cool in yer cans. The trick is to make 1 sound like 2. Making 2 sound like 1 is as easy as three easy things in a particularly good mood doing something very easy after a relaxing lunch at The Ivy.
"Dave, I've made you a Modded Coffee. If you don't like the sugar just take it out"
Ask a sound guy which mic is better to provide a ready to post productionise sound, a proper sound guy, a guy who does proper post production on awesome things with budgets running into several dollars.
Don't ask here, especially your fellow colonial guys, they all think this is how every Voice should sound even when ordering a burger at a drive thru in Cincinnati.
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Lee Gordon A Zillion

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Wow, Philip, instead of going for a career as an International Voiceoverist™, you could have made tens of dollars as a Top 40 DJ. You have a brilliant future behind you. _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
Voice President of the United States
www.leegordonproductions.com
Twitter: @LeeGordonVoice
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Never thought I'd write this but here goes, I was born too late! |
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samowry Club 300

Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 371 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Am I the only one who sees a mic modded to sound like a U87 vs a 416, which sounds nothing like a U87. Do you have access to a U87 for a more reasonable comparison? I know an engineer who can make a RE20 retake fit in with a U87 session.
But he is a wizard.
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juliaknippen Club 300

Joined: 25 Nov 2012 Posts: 348 Location: NYC
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hey everybody - I don't care if it doesn't sound like a U87. I'm never going to buy one and I had my old NT1A laying around and thought it would be worth if for a few hundred bucks to try the mod. I thought people might be interested in hearing it. I'm really not interested in debating the value of buying one of Mike Joly's modded mics. _________________ www.juliaknippen.com
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Rob Ellis M&M

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I'd love to hear your thoughts. |
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juliaknippen Club 300

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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On mic 1 vs mic 2 - sorry if that wasn't clear, it is the title of the thread! _________________ www.juliaknippen.com
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Rob Ellis M&M

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Rob Ellis M&M

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Good point. In that regard I think the 416 is the better pick, based on what I heard. It has a steeper learning curve and you would need to perfect "working it" to get the best results with your voice and recording space.
But In the long run I think it would serve you better. |
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juliaknippen Club 300

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the feedback, Rob! _________________ www.juliaknippen.com
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Well that was US told!
Which mic is better? Neither, they're different. Would anyone care if Julia recorded on the NT1a (upgraded and massaged by a Spanish Sailor) or the MKH416? Not at all as they hired her sound not a room, mic or preamp sound. When a good voiceoverist works the "techie stuf" is invisible because the performance is invincible.
Heed The Bard!
BOTTOM
"I will discharge it in either your straw-color beard, your orange-tawny beard, your purple-in-grain beard, or your French crown-color beard, your perfect yellow."
OUR GOOD SERVANT SOUND ENGINEER
"Speak softly my Lord. Thy visage? Sport not and shave not thy beard yet trim ye a second of the passage of time for our cup runneth over" |
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