VO-BB - 20 YEARS OLD!

Philip Banks · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:09 am Post subject:

Just did a quick tidy in the guest bedroom. There be stuff in the places where one puts stuff.

"Oh no!" exclaims unexpected guest "I don't have ..."

I point to where stuff may be found.

During my tidy I found a hair brush, I looked closely and saw it was a tangled mess of hair. Mmmm a brunette! Ah yes, dearest Rachel who died a little over 3 years ago aged 31. There's your motivation AI. Annnnnd ACTION!

Matto · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:05 pm Post subject:

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Bob Bergen · CM Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 981

[/quote]It's interesting that the same tools that make creative work easier also seem to always eventually evolve to replace you in the process. The music side of things has been getting there for some time - automated orchestration, for example, is not new and has actually gotten quite good (if you're curious for an example, see EastWest Opus Orchestrator).[/quote]

Computers and automation have been taking the work away from people/professionals for decades. Each time this has happened, those affected resisted, explaining that nothing can replace hands on craftsmen. This has been proven wrong each and every time.

This past year we saw an AI manipulated performance submitted for Best Character Voice Performance for Emmy consideration. I had staff at The Television Academy request the producers submit the actor's original recording so we could compare that from what was AI enhanced. It was night and day, and was ruled that it did not qualify. So, the board ruled that AI enhanced performances may be vetted in this way so as to better be able to judge the submitted actor's work.

This is not an unprecedented ruling. For decades other professionals, from make-up artists to set designers have seen their work both cut dramatically and in some cases completely eliminated due to CGI. During a board meeting about 5-7 years ago I was lamenting to my fellow board members that I can see AI taking a large chunk of the work away from the vo community. My peers kinda laughed at me with a, "Welcome to the club!" This was not new for them. In fact, The Academy ruled for peer groups, such as make-up and set design, that a certain percentage (I don't recall how much) of the finished product must not be CGI created to qualify for Emmy consideration. And, staff has the right to vet/challenge any submission if there's any question what was CGI and what was not. Thus, our recent VO/AI ruling.

VO is just the latest to be affected by a tech disruption. Everyone in show business is very myopic, thinking it's just about them. This is kinda understandable as most do not relate to others outside their own backyards, even those within the same craft. There truly is nothing one can do to stop the tide that is AI technology. The only thing that can be done, as it is done with lifts and re-uses for union vo, is to protect actor's past work from being used for future AI content. The problem comes with the vastness that is the internet. Usage used to mean broadcast TV. It was very easy to police. Usage today can be a fan or some computer geek using an actor or celeb's work/words to incriminate. Make it appear that they have said things to destroy reputations. That, IMO, is far more destructive and urgent than actors taking a gig to create and (or) advance AI technology.

Philip Banks · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:47 am Post subject:

While I'm policing my residuals someone is stealing my integrity.

chrisvoco · Club 300 Joined: 14 Mar 2014 Posts: 380 Location: Local

Lee Gordon · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:35 pm Post subject:

George · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:51 pm Post subject:

That cat has been out of the bag for ages already. Doctored photographs to incriminate individuals who ultimately take the fall even though there's plenty of evidence contrary. A lie circles the globe twice before the truth can even lace up the its boots.

There are already demonstrations of AI manipulating the speech of past presidents to get them to say things they never actually said and make it sound convincing. I think everyone is waiting to see who is going to use it first to try to destroy an opponent's political career, if it's not already being done at the local level...

The technology is -here-. We're not waiting for it.

Bob Bergen · CM Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 981

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MooreVoices · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:53 am Post subject:

I watched this three weeks ago...

That being said, I am governing my intellectual property accordingly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7x3CbbR-ns
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