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billelder Guest
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:54 am Post subject: Is a Neuman still a Neuman? |
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OK! As per Mike's suggestion, here is a thread on mics besides the thread with DB's nice mic pictures.
So, with all of the excellent large diaphram condenser mics out there, is a Neuman still a Neuman? I don't own one and have never heard myself on one. But recent years have given us many options and pretty nice sound with some of the less expensive choices.
Your thoughts?
(Oh...nice mic, Mike, on the avitar!) |
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Edo Guest
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject: Neumann still a Neumann |
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Well, I do a lot of voice-work on a very relyable Neumann M147 and I must say that I like it very much. Apart from the fact that this microphone cost more than my vintage Mercedes, I just love it. The last couple of weeks I have been in studio's where Rode microphones are in heavy use and I own a couple of them myself (NT-2 and NT-V (valve)). As long as they're combined with a nice analog tube pre-amp (like a TLAudio 5051), they sound awesome!
Tomorrow I'll be doing some character work on a Brauner. That sucker will buy you a way more recent Mercedes
The one thing I wouldn't recommend is the Neumann TLM 103, as it is not anywhere near the quality we know from Neumann's other 'standards'. For the money you spend on a TLM 103 there are a lot better microphones. available.
Regards from Holland
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13020 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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What is a "valve"? is it an actual mechanism in the tube part of the mic? _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Out here in Tokyo it's something of a brand name culture. People aspire to own Louis Vuitton bags, Rolex watches, BMW cars and so on. Beyond the extra street cred you might aquire, these brands offer no tangible benefits over the cheaper competition. These days, mics are the same. Once upon a time there were very few mic makers of any quality, and to produce a decent sounding mic was a reasonably expensive process. With the development of cheaper production technology and a cheaper workforce in asia, production of high quality mics has become much easier. Neumann's are great mics, and the mythology is still strong enough to justify many studios having them because clients expect to see them, but in the real world and for many applications one could get equal or sometimes better results from a mic considerably cheaper. As is often stated on the other boards (and let me be the first to do it here) The choice of mic depends entirely on the source you wish to record, not on how much you paid for the mic. As I've said before, I use a Neumann U87 as my first choice because it sounds good on many people. However, I have swapped it out for other mics because they sounded on a particular voice. So on occasion my $100 SP-B1 beats the $3,000 Neumann.
Anyway...back to rebuilding my studio. I've just moved it out of it's own premises and into my apartment...What a mess.
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Mike Nasty Brit

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 476 Location: Tomorrowland
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Oops. Forgot to log in. :cry:
Yeah, that's me above. |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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It looked like you.
Good luck on the compression of stuff into space. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Edo Guest
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Deirdre wrote: | What is a "valve"? is it an actual mechanism in the tube part of the mic? |
The Rode NT-V is a valve or tube microphone as the other model (NT-2) is a condenser mike. It's an Australian brand microphones and they are very popular in Western Europe because of their amazing specs and friendly pricetag. I only have a link in Dutch, but it will tell the story more or less. Currently the NT-V is sold as the NT-K. The NT-V was the previous model.
Pricewise, add about 10 percent to the stated price in euro and you know what the pricetag in dollars will be.
It's actually Rode with a stripe through the 'o', but I haven't found out how to write that thing on a keyboard yet
http://www.rode.nl/
Also take a look at Blue microphones as they are quickly becoming the hottest thing around in recording in Holland at the moment.
http://www.bluemic.com/ |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Røde.
Type your "o" while holding down the "alt/option" key.
(I'm on a Mac, but I think it may work for PCs) _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Edo Guest
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Deirdre wrote: | Røde.
Type your "o" while holding down the "alt/option" key.
(I'm on a Mac, but I think it may work for PCs) |
Nope... won't work on my PC and I'm pretty sure I'll never attach my G5 on the net... my Pro Tools HD system has to function whenever I want it to... I spent a bundle on that aluminium masterpiece and I don't think it's very smart to take any chances :lol: |
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Neuman ceased to be Neuman when Sennheiser came into the picture. I've owned a U87, an M147 and a TLM103, I found someone who made U47 remakes and that's what I use today - along with the Sennheiser 416P48. |
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kitstern Been Here Awhile
Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 218 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject: Microtech Gefell mic |
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This is my first post, and I'm very glad to be here.
When I was setting up my studio last year I ordered and tested about five different mics. I finally found the Gefell M930, and I'm really pleased with it. Here's a review from Sound On Sound magazine.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan04/articles/microtechgefell.htm?session=5ec3533b3d32289cf29b9c6829550946
Georg Neumann founded the Microtech Gefell company in 1943, and it was the company in which he built his first commercial microphone. There's interesting history in the above article, scroll down to the box "East Meets West" and check it out! |
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Bill Guest
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:12 am Post subject: |
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http://www.rode.com.au/
I use an NT-2 on both voice and saxophone, great bang for the buck, and I've had a few dealings directly wtih the company, good blokes. |
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