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imaginator
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bailey wrote:
| Quote: | | Could you also say that GOOD voice talent, is in the ear of the beholder? |
bailey: ...i guess i could...but so is ear wax.
"cc": in case connie is too modest to mention it, she's prepared a cd/printout combo of the voice2007 material. supposedly i am her first victi...er, customer, as she put it.
might be good to private-message her on that so as not to run afoul of any vo-bb rules on commercialism.
i do intend to write up a review of sorts once i've gone through the material.
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ConnieTerwilliger
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Joined: 07 Dec 2004
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Location: San Diego - serving the world
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| Quote: | | Could you also say that GOOD voice talent, is in the ear of the beholder? |
I think that there is GOOD and not-so-good - and that the trained ear should be able to pick them out. It is part of the self-evaluation process to listen to the market and determine what works and what doesn't. Try picking out local spots from national spots. Should be easy to do - they are simply "better" spots - from both the writing AND from the performance - in most cases. If you hear a local spot that shines - you have to figure out what was it that stood out to you. If you hear a national spot that sucks, try to figure out why.
The challenge for us these days is that recording in a vacuum trick - deciding when the stuff is ready to send - either to an actual client, or for auditions. It takes knowing yourself, your niche(s), your abilities to interpret copy, etc. I still struggle with that - especially on auditions.
(Thanks Bob, VOICE 2007 was really a great time from both doing my presentation and watching the other presentations. And it was very interesting listening to the playback while editing the material - I cut out a LOT of 'ums!")
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Dan-O
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Connie,
You have reminded me of an article I read about a month ago. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7238637.stm) The article can be used as a teaser for creating your marketing brand and for self evaluation. Has it anything do to with VO? No. But, it has a fantastic insight into the irrationality of our, our clients and possible future lover's mindset.
Here's is selection from the article I found particularly interesting. These steps should be used when looking at one's own information concerning their current position and how you should present that information to the world:
| Quote: | * framing (how you present data is as important as the data itself)
* impact bias (overestimation of possible outcomes),
* confirmation bias (recognising only data that supports your hypothesis)
* loss aversion (we stand to gain more than we would lose, but our fear of loss prevents us)
* selective perception (seeing what you want to see),and
* rosy retrospection (integral to the repeated experience of family Christmas) |
In other words; are you being honest with yourself and to others? |
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ConnieTerwilliger
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These two have hit me over and over since starting to do a voice seminar. My class is an introductory overview - and many of the people in the class are in that blissfully unaware state of unconscious incompetence - they have an idea that they think they know what it is all about, so they think they are doing something well without really know what they are doing - many times being reinforced in this belief that they know what they are doing because someone laughs at what they do.
* confirmation bias (recognising only data that supports your hypothesis)
* selective perception (seeing what you want to see)
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Bailey
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Location: Lake San Marcos... north of Connie, northwest of the Best.
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| ConnieTerwilliger wrote: | It is part of the self-evaluation process to listen to the market and determine what works and what doesn't.
Try picking out local spots from national spots. Should be easy to do - they are simply "better" spots - from both the writing AND from the performance - in most cases.
If you hear a local spot that shines - you have to figure out what was it that stood out to you. If you hear a national spot that sucks, try to figure out why. |
Connie... Thanks for the tip... of the iceberg.
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