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TheVoiceOfBob
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: French is all Greek to me Reply with quote

I am terrible at pronouncing French names. A bit of help please?

François Henri Hallopeau

I'm going with FRAN-cis Aun-REE ALLO-pew.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frawn Zwaah AwnREE Allo Po (O sound as in low)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Philip!
I was close. I got Henri right. Batting .333, great for major league baseball.

I realize now that I didn't notice the little squiggle at the bottom of the c (aren't I technical?) and thought it was dirt on my copy until I looked up the name.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philip's got it almost right-

The "c" with the squiggle..?
Should sound like an "S" - not a "Z"

And the "AWN" in Frawn-swah
and "Awn-ree" will work better if you don't really vocalize the "N" sound - almost say it, but DON'T-

It's these "nasalized" vowel sounds in French-

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob,

call me!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mr. Allo-pew! Are you by any chance related to Pepe Le Pew?

Sorry . . . couldn't resist. Wink

This is how I would say it . . . I'm pretty sure it's right:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/9687499d64ad3d/

My only question was that usually in French when you have a word ending in "S" followed by a word beginning with a vowel sound, the "S" is pronounced and connects the words (as in Franh-Cwah Ahn-ri vs. Frahn-cwahzAhn-ri), but I don't imagine you do that with names . . . especially since "Francoise" (too lazy to look up the keystroke for the cedille) is a girl's name!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NotBad Ray!
I actually just called Bob & said it for him.
He's all set!

What you are talking about are called "liasons" - links between words - But you wouldn't do that is this case. The "S" is silent in "François"

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liz officially ROCKS!

She called me while I was going up an elevator (amazed we kept the connection) and talked me through the pronunciation. The looks I was getting on the elevator were priceless BTW.

Thank you ALL so much.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

awwwww..... Embarrassed
Glad I could help! Laugh

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm . . . maybe I need to hit up Liz for some lessons too. I'm going to be in France in 2 weeks!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just speak English. Really loudly. With a southern accent. And wear shorts.

Ooh, and don't forget to ask for White Zinfandel everywhere you go and make sure to ask them to fill the glass all the way to the top. Then swig half the glass and fill it up again by adding ice.

Follow these simple guidelines and you'll be fine...perhaps even the hit of the country!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome!

I may not know much of this "French" but I'll follow your tips and also be sure to say "Bone Joor," "Aw Reevwar," and "Mercy" really loudly and look pleased with myself wherever I go so the locals know I'm a tryin' tuh fit in.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bon voyage e bon chance!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And be sure to ask for ketchup....the waiters in Paris love that!!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moe Egan wrote:
And be sure to ask for ketchup....the waiters in Paris love that!!


Well, what else are you going to put on your French Fries ?????
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