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Yoda117
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Another set of preamp pics Reply with quote

Sorry folks, just had to show them off. It's not as pricey as Kgenus's stuff, but for those who play around in the studio, these are true beauts Wink


/and I'm not talking about the M-610... though with the minor mods, that thing is pretty smoking too






Thanks to Adam from Mercenary for showing these off to me (rat bastage... you knew I'd get them). And to Jonathan Little for coming up with these wild preamps.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg,

Sweet!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say that I wasn't sure what to expect of them when I first heard them. But being able to use a transformer, to install an additional transformer, to use an external transformer, or just go transformerless piqued my interest.

Then you have the phase and LF resonance tools which are part of the package (I spent a full week playing with those). Yummy.

When I oversaturated the transformer and the VO track attacked nicer than all but one of my tube preamps (and it was on the same par with that one) I fell in love.

Now I just need two more... just because Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What day is trash day at your place? I may make a trip up there just to rummage through your garbage to see what you have tossed out. It's probably all better than my front line equipment!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleaning out the garage and some lesser used portions of the studio today.

If you stop by, bring some whiskey. Wink

/so mentioning the new AD/DA unit would be a bad idea...?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the LMNOPre is wicked spiffy.

Any recommendations for what's a good preamp with say a SM7b or Heil PR40?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what's the price range?

/need to know what level of insanity you wish to go with Bitchin
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a dynamic mic, I can't go too insane (but I should)! Three price ranges:

1.) Under $1000 - not particularly interested in the lower end...say $600 and up.
2.) $1000-$1500 This is realistically my limit considering the other purchases I see in my crystal ball.
3.) $1500-$2000
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lance Blair wrote:
For a dynamic mic, I can't go too insane (but I should)!


Not to be rude, but having a dynamic mic has little to do with the quality of a preamp you use. A good preamp is a good preamp. Good gear now means that you don't have to replace it later as your studio grows.

But that's just an opinion

Three price ranges:

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1.) Under $1000 - not particularly interested in the lower end...say $600 and up.


That is the lower end, sorry to say. But that doesn't mean that you can't get a great sound out of a preamp at this price point. Even for less, there are some top talents kicking butt and taking initials (it takes too long for full names with all the auditions Wink ) using DBX 286, M-Box 2 Pros, etc.

For $600 - $1000 I'd look at the John Hardy M1 (single channel), Grace Designs 101, and Great River single channel.


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2.) $1000-$1500 This is realistically my limit considering the other purchases I see in my crystal ball.


Snag a 2 channel Hardy, or an Avalon M5. The LMNOPre is $1500 per channel and I don't normally recommend them publically (I don't like to share Smile They totally rock IMHO, but to each their own).

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3.) $1500-$2000


Avalon 737, or Great River 2 channel (definitely prefer that over the Avalon, but both are standards in the industry).

Preamps are like mics... you find what works best for you. I spend a hell of a lot of time and $ until I found some that did for me. Life is funny that way.

Find a good place that will let you "play" with their stuff and use what works for you. Mercenary Audio and SoundPure are good folks, as is Front End Audio. And being in Atlanta, you can freaking trip over studios... take your local recording engineer out for a drink or two and pick his brain. That's how I got started... much to my better half's chagrin.

*shrugs*
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your response. I agree that a good pre is a good pre; and if anything, a dynamic mic screams out for a really great preamp.

It's looking more and more like either the Great River or the Hardy, both of which I've test-driven.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently running a Rode NTK through a dbx286a, but am considering upgrading to a Great River... haven't tried one out yet but have heard a lot of really good things about them. Is there a night-and-day difference? And would the 2-channel be of any more use to me than the 1-channel if I'm just running one mic?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both are good preamps, and widely used in the VO world.

Of the two, I prefer the Hardy on most voices for it's ability to stand out of a mix.

If you get the chance, test out the LMNOPre and compare the three. I'll admit that I love the things, but I bought my first one a year ago and liked it enough to get a second.

And enough to start looking at getting two more.

It's very Great River sounding when the transformer is used (the stock transformer that is, you can install a second transformer of your choosing or externally use one), But can become as colorful as the Hardy or as clean as an Avalon (minus the HF). Much like my "go to" compressors and EQs, it's very versitile, which is why I like it.

Right now the top three preamps for VO in my mind are the Great River, the Hardy, and the Little Labs. I just preferred the Little Labs, but you won't go wrong with any of the three.

The important thing though is to spend time with any and all of the choices on your list. I did when I did my mic shootout and found what I considered to be a hidden gem. Gear is funny that way... sometimes you find just what you need, when you aren't looking for it. Bitchin

Just post some clips when you get your preamp... I love hearing the sounds people put together with their recording chains.
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