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BALKY
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: BOOTH Reply with quote

Hey guys!

I have finally decided to buy myself a vocal booth. I spoke with a sales person of this company and got a price quote of 5,300.00 for Gold Series booth.

The question now arises where to get that much money in one lumpsum. Frown

Has any one of you ever dealt with this company vocalbooth.com ?

Perhaps there's another place where I can get a booth cheapper? I know that if I built it myself, it would be considerably cheapper except I am not that skilled, of course, unfortunately!

Anyway, hope to hear from you soon! THnks

Pavel
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Balky do a search. This topic has been discussed a lot. I think you'll find quite a bit.
Personally I have no experience with them..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whisper Room does a great booth, in my opinion.

One of their 3X5's would probably be in the $5000 range.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not buy it you will be disappointed!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philip Banks wrote:
Do not buy it you will be disappointed!


I agree, they are hellishly expensive and unless you treat the walls and corners and everything else, the common complaint is that they sound like you are sitting in a box. It depends on what you need it for. Vocalbooth is a good company but unless you get the double wall (I think it is called "platinum") you may not get the silence you are looking for. But your mileage may vary. For everyone who hates them,you'll find as many who swear by them. There are a lot of ways to isolate without spending the GNP of Australia though. Do a search here and on other forums. If you are certain you want a vocalbooth or whisperroom for heaven's sake don't buy a new one. The used prices on these can be pretty good. It just means trolling through ebay and craigslist and other classifieds.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professional VO in top studios is rarely recorded in a small dead sounding box. Most studios in LA and NY are usually at least 12x12 and relatively quiet. No matter what size room you have, just get rid of reflections from walls and glass for a good sound.

My room is 8x10. On two of the four walls I hanged corduroy drapes from ceiling to floor ($50). Quiet, little reflection, not quite dead, and certainly not "boxy". Just doing two walls is all you need. Pick a color that energizes you (red?).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 4x6 Whisper Room and I really like it. My only real complaint with it is that there are only two pass-through holes for cables and that's not nearly enough.

The holes are about 1.5" and plugged with dense rubber plugs (they look like corks) with little cut-outs so that cables can be run through them. Each plug has two holes, so you can pass 4 cables total (or a couple more if they're the skinny kind that are attached to a power brick). Again, not nearly enough. I have around 9 or 10 cables going into the booth so I had to do some serious finagling, including running some cables through the vent ducts which, let me tell you, was a pain.

But then again, it did only take a few hours and once it was done it was done.

Overall, I'm very happy with it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the Voice 2008 conference, they had a booth set up by VocalBooth. The VocalBooth guy was VERY nice!

It was pretty large... I dunno, maybe 6x8? I did an ISDN session in it, and the studio on the other end complained about the sound they were getting.

So, to me, that's not a good sign.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had to do some serious finagling, including running some cables through the vent ducts which, let me tell you, was a pain.


Lou, I may have to revisit how you did that, because I'm needing to run some additional cable into mine, and those rubber stoppers are a tight fit for most mic cables.

My Whisper Room has immensely improved the sound of my audio. An occasional low-frequency rumble still gets in from time to time, but the barking dogs and neighbors lawn mowers are a thing of the past.

If you add bass traps in the corners it removes most of that "boxy" sound.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had to do some serious finagling, including running some cables through the vent ducts which, let me tell you, was a pain.


Lou, I may have to revisit how you did that, because I'm needing to run some additional cable into mine, and those rubber stoppers are a tight fit for most mic cables.

My Whisper Room has immensely improved the sound of my audio. An occasional low-frequency rumble still gets in from time to time, but the barking dogs and neighbors lawn mowers are a thing of the past.

If you add bass traps in the corners it removes most of that "boxy" sound.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rellis wrote:
If you add bass traps in the corners it removes most of that "boxy" sound.


What kind did you use? I think one corner of mine is out, since I have a monitor / kb / mouse there, but I could still do the other three.

Yeah, the stoppers were good for the mic cable, the power cord for the light, the ethernet-style connector for my E-MU and the power cables for the pre-amp and E-MU. But then I had the monitor cable, monitor power cable, audio cables from the E-MU to the speakers, and the telephone and power cables for the phone patch.

Everything is (somehow) wedged into the two pass-throughs and their stoppers except for the two monitor cables, which I fished down through the vent (the one that has the low hole inside the booth).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Lou,

I have a 4x4 Whisper Room, like Rob, and thought I only had two cable ports, but I found a third along one of the side walls. Give it a look, again.

BTW, I purchased two bass traps from Guitar Center: one sits behind me in the corner, the other I shoved up into the corner behind my music stand and mic. The latter is what truly killed my boom. I also purchased a window which keeps the room "alive."

Dan
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Bruce
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say build your own sound proof environment. It's much less expensive and only a few people are in such a terrible environment that they need a glorified phone booth to read in. There's tons of information in here from people who have sound proofed their spaces.

I will say that using a highly directional mic like the 416 and a wee bit of gating on my mic's channel has eliminated almost all of my extraneous noise problems. Cheating, I know, but it works.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cheating, I know, but it works.


effectively using the tools at your disposal, i say.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting with the cork thing in the pass through. I guess that is needed with a double walled booth. I have a singe wall GK/Soundsuckers Booth with an added layer of heavy load vinyl installed and it has one pass through. They take a small strip of the foam that lines the booth and roll it like cinnamon roll. So basically your cords are to get rolled in the "roll" and then you stuff that tightly in the pass through hole. I hear no sound leak from it.

Here is my booth with a new monitor and shelf I installed recently. The monitor is a 24" so I can mirror my Apple Display outside the booth. I had a smaller monitor and it was messing up the monitor outside by dropping down to the lowest common resolution....so the bigger mirrors directly now at 1900 x 1200. The only thing is, for a really long session, I would never the monitor. It heats up nicely. But for quick sessions and auditions....it is golden having it in there. Plus, it has livened up the booth a bit without sounding like I am hearing any reflections.

I also have bass traps running floor to ceiling, except for the side with the shelf. One below...one up top. The other side has floor to ceiling bass traps and the side with the door has smaller 6" bass traps just to de-sqaure the booth. In the upper areas you can see that took some of the extra foam sent with the booth and rolled it....again in an attempt to de-square the booth as much as possible.


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