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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:29 am    Post subject: OT: 4 chords, 36 songs Reply with quote

In case you haven't seen this yet:

http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2009/01/20


FYI- they do throw in a hefty curse word toward the end.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow that's cool. So cool I just blogged about it and gave you props. Thanks Kara! I'm playing it for the 5th time or so already.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys ever heard of AC/DC?

Learn four chords on the guitar, and you could play almost their entire catalog!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but ACDC doesn't use that cheesy chord progression (root - fifth - seventh - fourth) that almost everybody started using in the 80s, and now it just won't go away. I've written loads of songs in different genres (yes, I'm not published Smile) and I refuse to write anything with that progression as the sole basis of the structure - if that's what the melody dictates when I'm writing the song I just throw it out. The world doesn't need another one of these...it's just a way to make a buck at this point.

When you see bands like U2 and RHCP use this a lot, you've got to wonder if they're all that as songwriters (even though I like them both).
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... but if you're a musician who's only handicap is a total lack of any musical ability (like myself), then it's an easy progression to vamp along with while convincing yourself that you actually have some musical chops... set the loop running and keep yourself amused for hours Smile Anyway, it makes a change from my usual twelve-bar in C or Am Wink

Gotta lay off them black notes... they'll mess you up every time. OK, I've been known to flatten a fifth on occasion cool
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hilarious!

Now, pardon me while I, too, flatten a fifth. Or pull a pint.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheesy as it may be it is a very pleasing progression to most people. As a program director I bet I heard thousands of songs that use it. It takes more than just chords to make a good record.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOUR chords!! Thats just plain overkill. A basic I-IV-V is the foundation of 80%* percent of the world's music. These 4-chord pioneering types are just showing off!

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When you see bands like U2 and RHCP use this a lot, you've got to wonder if they're all that as songwriters


I don't consider it a reflection on their songwriting skills, just progressions that work. Albeit close to painting by numbers.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said Living Culutre...it's a progression that works which is close to painting by numbers. I think it's okay to use that progression as a base, a pleasant "everyman" way to suck people into a song, but then it has to go somewhere. U2's "One" is more an example of a song with a variation on the "four square" progression that takes twists and turns along the way in the song's structure. If you're going to do the same thing over and over for three and a half minutes...blech. Sick
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think it's okay to use that progression as a base, a pleasant "everyman" way to suck people into a song, but then it has to go somewhere.


For sure, although many artists do get away with it. It is like any commercial product; you first need to appeal to what people are familiar and comfortable with and then slowly expand on it. And talent does have a part too, for instance the Artist Formerly Known as Prince and the artist still known as Sting are capable of taking chord progressions, odd timings and remote key changes to places where they just should NOT GO...but somehow make them work so the average listener has no problem with it. That is pure skill!

I think RHCP were a lot more adventurous on their earlier albums, but getting less and less so with each album.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Four chords? Any more than two and that's jazz..........
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