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KaraEdwards M&M

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bobsouer Frequent Flyer

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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Wow! _________________ Be well,
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Hart Assistant Asylum Chief

Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 2107 Location: Foley, AL
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Wow that's cool. So cool I just blogged about it and gave you props. Thanks Kara! I'm playing it for the 5th time or so already. _________________ Hart Voice Overs Blog
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todd ellis A Zillion

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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:08 am Post subject: |
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nice! _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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CurtZHP Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:55 am Post subject: |
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You guys ever heard of AC/DC?
Learn four chords on the guitar, and you could play almost their entire catalog! |
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, but ACDC doesn't use that cheesy chord progression (root - fifth - seventh - fourth) that almost everybody started using in the 80s, and now it just won't go away. I've written loads of songs in different genres (yes, I'm not published ) and I refuse to write anything with that progression as the sole basis of the structure - if that's what the melody dictates when I'm writing the song I just throw it out. The world doesn't need another one of these...it's just a way to make a buck at this point.
When you see bands like U2 and RHCP use this a lot, you've got to wonder if they're all that as songwriters (even though I like them both). _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
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Bish 3.5 kHz

Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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... but if you're a musician who's only handicap is a total lack of any musical ability (like myself), then it's an easy progression to vamp along with while convincing yourself that you actually have some musical chops... set the loop running and keep yourself amused for hours Anyway, it makes a change from my usual twelve-bar in C or Am
Gotta lay off them black notes... they'll mess you up every time. OK, I've been known to flatten a fifth on occasion  _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
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Donna King's Row

Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 1118 Location: The studio or the barn.
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hilarious!
Now, pardon me while I, too, flatten a fifth. Or pull a pint. |
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Hart Assistant Asylum Chief

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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Cheesy as it may be it is a very pleasing progression to most people. As a program director I bet I heard thousands of songs that use it. It takes more than just chords to make a good record. _________________ Hart Voice Overs Blog
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Living Culture Contributore Level V

Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 189 Location: Taipei
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:14 am Post subject: |
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FOUR chords!! Thats just plain overkill. A basic I-IV-V is the foundation of 80%* percent of the world's music. These 4-chord pioneering types are just showing off!
*estimate for reference only
Quote: | When you see bands like U2 and RHCP use this a lot, you've got to wonder if they're all that as songwriters |
I don't consider it a reflection on their songwriting skills, just progressions that work. Albeit close to painting by numbers. _________________ Mandarin Chinese Voiceovers & Localization
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Well said Living Culutre...it's a progression that works which is close to painting by numbers. I think it's okay to use that progression as a base, a pleasant "everyman" way to suck people into a song, but then it has to go somewhere. U2's "One" is more an example of a song with a variation on the "four square" progression that takes twists and turns along the way in the song's structure. If you're going to do the same thing over and over for three and a half minutes...blech.  _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
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Living Culture Contributore Level V

Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 189 Location: Taipei
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I think it's okay to use that progression as a base, a pleasant "everyman" way to suck people into a song, but then it has to go somewhere. |
For sure, although many artists do get away with it. It is like any commercial product; you first need to appeal to what people are familiar and comfortable with and then slowly expand on it. And talent does have a part too, for instance the Artist Formerly Known as Prince and the artist still known as Sting are capable of taking chord progressions, odd timings and remote key changes to places where they just should NOT GO...but somehow make them work so the average listener has no problem with it. That is pure skill!
I think RHCP were a lot more adventurous on their earlier albums, but getting less and less so with each album. _________________ Mandarin Chinese Voiceovers & Localization
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Dayo Cinquecento

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 544 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Four chords? Any more than two and that's jazz.......... |
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