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Andy Bowyer
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Too Aggressive at V123? Reply with quote

So. I've auditioned for a paltry 12% of the auditions that "SmartCast" has sent. That, arguably, is "highly selective." Yet I just topped the 200% mark (again) "compared to others with similar blah, blah, blah."

*sigh*

I really *want* to like V123...even though it was a tough choice to resign after swearing I'd never do it again four years ago.

Just wanted to get that off my chest.

Alright. Coffee break's over...back on my head.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what's too selective? They're paying what my rate is, I'll audition. Seems simple enough.

I haven't jumped back on board with V123, (or voices.com) as of yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I subscribe to the "Bird in the Hand" theory, when it comes to Voice123. If the penalty for replying to too many auditions is to not receive future auditions, then the result is the same. I'm not going to pass up an opportunity now for fear of losing one later. If the gig pays enough and it's one I feel well qualified to do, I go for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a bit miffed at the idea that any audition counts "against" me, even if it's never "opened" by the voice seeker.

Still, my philosophy is that I'll never hit the balls at which I do not swing. And I agree that
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I'm not going to pass up an opportunity now for fear of losing one later.


Well said and wise.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand, Andy. But the way it was before was a nightmare for talent-- and for casting people. The same audition monkeys kept piling onto each listing and seemed to have nothing else going on but to sit on the computer around the clock and shoot off half-assed audio .

Voice seekers got a million auditions, most of which were horrific. Voice talent were complaining that they couldn't even break into the first fifty auditions, and a lot of auds didn't get heard because the first dozen+ were cr@p.

SmartCast has had a bumpy road but, ultimately, I think it's the best solution to all of the inherent problems. The transparency is key. And the system guides people toward not auditioning for everything with an "Yeah, I can probably do that" attitude but waiting for something closer to "Yeah, Baby! This is exactly ME!"
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't like it?

Then go to Voices.com, or VOPlanet, or any other v/o site where you can gleefully sit glued to your computer all day, every day waiting to pounce on every single audition that comes in, desperately trying NOT to be number 176 out of 243 people auditioning for a $100 job, (since there are absolutely NO auditioning restrictions whatsoever there), and, wherein the client is only going to listen to the first 18 before they find what they want, anyway.

I love V123. The more people who hate it and walk away, the happier I am.

That's less competition for me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen to that!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audition Monkeys?

HEY!



It makes sense. I'm not the voice for movie trailers, or morning radio ID's, and I did get a couple of well paid gigs off of V123. For the price, it's good exposure as long as it doesn't suck up time from other marketing that you're working on.

As a facet of a business plan I think it's ok, as the whole thing... nope.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If V123 was my entire business plan, I'd be living in a cardboard box down by the railroad tracks...regardless of the successes I've had there. (Talk about recording noise issues!)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

holy crap!

www.auditionmonkeys.com is available!

hmmmmmmm.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we should register it and form a ska band.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm thinking of a new P2P site!

truth in advertising and all!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Todd,

You have just given me such a laugh! Laugh
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hmmm....that might be one way to get my career back on track.......

....could that be the fast track to VO success....?

...(groans and rimshots optional).... Laugh
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once described the Voice sites as "like throwing a hot dog in a piranha tank."

One gig, 9 million auditions. Smile I had some success at Voices.com, but I decided not to spend too much time and energy on it. Better to drum up my own work.
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