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Bailey 4 Large

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:31 pm Post subject: Another "HH" Porta-Booth |
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I've wanted (needed) to build one of these Harlan Hogan Porta Booth for some time. I was able to get the large ITSO fabric bin from Target for $10. I needed some Aralex/Auralex foam, but Guitar Store was closed, and I couldn't remember who said they had some spare pieces. So I had to improvise with 2" hi-density foam from UFO… $15. for a 2' x 3' sheet.


This is the Auralex Forming Tool, sold in appliance stores everywhere... also slices ham and turkey.

Now I have to see if it works... or if it's just a mic garage. _________________ "Bailey"
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samowry Club 300

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Looks very cleaver. Post some before and after samples if you get a chance.
Good luck,
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Mike Sommer A Hundred Dozen

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Is that foam spongy or is it stiff insulation or carving foam?
Does the fabric bin have cardboard in between the fabric, i.e. is it solid on the 5 sides? Or is the bottom just fabric? _________________ The Blog:
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Acoustics are counter-intuitive. If one thing is certain about acoustics, it is that if anything seems obvious it is probably wrong. |
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Bailey 4 Large

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Sommer wrote: | Is that foam spongy or is it stiff insulation or carving foam? | It's not spongy like egg crate... more stiff like sofa cushions. UFO sells mostly fabric and foam for reupholstering.
Mike Sommer wrote: | Does the fabric bin have cardboard in between the fabric, i.e. is it solid on the 5 sides? Or is the bottom just fabric? |
The fabric bin has some kind of heavy duty cardboard between the fabrics. There is a fabric covered board that fits in the bottom of the bin to keep it open. _________________ "Bailey"
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Mike Sommer A Hundred Dozen

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Don't use the bottom part of the box and you got a winner. _________________ The Blog:
http://voiceoveraudio.blogspot.com/
Acoustics are counter-intuitive. If one thing is certain about acoustics, it is that if anything seems obvious it is probably wrong.
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Bailey 4 Large

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Sommer wrote: | Don't the bottom part for the box and you got a winner. |
The bottom of the box is directly behind the microphone. Are you saying to leave the board in, and take the foam piece in front of it out? This would leave only foam on 2 sides of the mic and the top.
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Tommy Ray
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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If I wanted one something like this I would have made it too. You are resourceful. Good job. Really glad you didn't go out and buy one. |
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mpelishek Guest
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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How does that foam compare to the the actual 'sound proofing' foam, both in price and results?
I made one of these too, and, I'm embarassed to admit, at first I thought it would be a great idea to use squares of a thin eggshell mattress pad. Yeah I know, I'm not exactly a studio engineer. |
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Bailey 4 Large

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Two recordings, both no processing, straight up across the board using GoldWave.
Recording 1
The mic is located 2˝feet from computer.
TEST1
Recording 2
The mic is located in center of the box, about 6+ feet from computer.
TEST2
To me, in the box doesn't sound as sharp, and I still hear a computer sound.
Recording 1 (with noise reduction)
I used Noise Reduction/Initial Noise. Sounded better than the others.
TEST1A _________________ "Bailey"
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whalewtchr Cinquecento

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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To my ear TEST 2 sounds muffled and yes I can hear the noise.
Noise reduction seems to take out the ambient noise.
Has anyone use the Harlan Hogan Thing? _________________ jonahcummings |
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Mike Sommer A Hundred Dozen

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Bailey wrote: |
The bottom of the box is directly behind the microphone. Are you saying to leave the board in, and take the foam piece in front of it out? This would leave only foam on 2 sides of the mic and the top.
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Sorry Don't use the bottom insert board that comes with the box. Just use the foam. _________________ The Blog:
http://voiceoveraudio.blogspot.com/
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Mike Sommer A Hundred Dozen

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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It's not going to eliminate noise. It's only intended to minimize echo and room ambiance.
Now this set up is not going to take care of everything. You'll also need to use a moving blanket or heavy curtain behind you to reduce the refections of the back walls. This is also a requirement of the Harlan Hogan device.
The Harlen Hogan device has it's problems too, primarily boomyness, due to its construction and design. And that's why you do not want to use the solid bottom with your box. _________________ The Blog:
http://voiceoveraudio.blogspot.com/
Acoustics are counter-intuitive. If one thing is certain about acoustics, it is that if anything seems obvious it is probably wrong.
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Bailey 4 Large

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Mike thanks for the advice. I'll remove the insert board and see if there's any noticeable difference. I guess I was thinking the HH box was the end all. The blanket makes sense. Thanks again. _________________ "Bailey"
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Scott Lyle Contributor IV

Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 109 Location: Greensboro, NC, home of the ACC
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:57 pm Post subject: sofa cushions anyone? |
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Bailey wrote: | Mike Sommer wrote: | Is that foam spongy or is it stiff insulation or carving foam? | It's not spongy like egg crate... more stiff like sofa cushions. |
Greetings,
Sorry to bring this thread back after a week or so, but the above has me wondering if you couldn't use a sofa cushion cut into a pyramid shape as shown above. They would be 3-4" thick, and the foam does feel more dense than egg crate. What do y'all think?
Thank you for your time and expertise,
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Bailey 4 Large

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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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I would try to avoid cutting up sofa cushions and other furniture to create a sound box, especially when the wife is at work. And as for the 3-4" thick... remember, you would still need to have enough room to place the mic inside inside the box. _________________ "Bailey"
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