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Darren Altman Cinquecento

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: Really sorry guys..... another rate question 4 U! |
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Just been contacted by a company in Canada about an E-Learning project. Here are the details:
- "Approximately a few hours of finished voice over material."
- Can edit their work and provide us with finalized scripts
- Can offer a price per finished hour of work-1 hour is about 5000 words
I hour will not result in 5000 words for me!
Many thanks in advance for your replies. _________________ https://www.darrenaltman.com/
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asnively Triple G

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Yeah-- that more like 1.5 to 2 hours, if you ask me. Since they mentioned a per-word expectation, and if you're doing this in your own studio, I'd do the maths based on the word count and then quote per 5000 word unit.
It's the only thing I can think to do when there's such a large gap between their expectation and my reality. _________________ the Amy Snively family of brands for all your branded thing needs.
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todd ellis A Zillion

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: |
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i agree 5,000 words = close to 2 hours. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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Lizden A Zillion

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Really?
For me 1 hour of finished audio is about 9,000 words. _________________ Liz de Nesnera O.A.V. ~ Livin' The VO Dream!
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Quote them $750 (US) |
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bobsouer Frequent Flyer

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Darren,
I'd say Philip's suggestion is spot on and very close to my own rates for such projects. _________________ Be well,
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Darren Altman Cinquecento

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asnively Triple G

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Lizden wrote: | Really?
For me 1 hour of finished audio is about 9,000 words. |
I thought we were talking about production time. 5000 words = 90 to 120 minutes of production time (and a little over 30 minutes of finished audio). _________________ the Amy Snively family of brands for all your branded thing needs.
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Lee Gordon A Zillion

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with both Liz and Philip. When I calculate rates, I figure 160-175 words per minute, although a nice easy read would be 150, which gives you 9000 words for an hour.
And $750 - 1000 is about right (maybe $1000 for the first hour and $750 for each subsequent one). _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
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todd ellis A Zillion

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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i'm with amy - thought we were talking billable hours. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Whereas Bob is probably talking Bibleable hours. |
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Lizden A Zillion

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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OK...so just pre-ignore my post!
And yes, I'd bill between $800-$1000 US _________________ Liz de Nesnera O.A.V. ~ Livin' The VO Dream!
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bobsouer Frequent Flyer

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Philip Banks wrote: | Whereas Bob is probably talking Bibleable hours. |
Ha! Thanks for the chuckle Philip. _________________ Be well,
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Jason Bishop Contributor

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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I may not be reading the client needs right, but in the end, you need to clarify if you are editing the final files.
That takes time and you should be paid for your time.,
If you are just recording several large files, (maybe cutting out the bad takes but letting them do all the individual file creation/final editing), then $750 to $1000 is a decent price for a 5000-word project.
It equates to between 15-&-20-cents per word.
If you are editing, make it 25 cents per word minimum.
Don't sell yourself short.
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asnively Triple G

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with .25 a word. _________________ the Amy Snively family of brands for all your branded thing needs.
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