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Tom Test DC

Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 629 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:14 pm Post subject: Teen voice of 'Dora The Explorer" sues Nickelodeon |
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This caught my eye!
"She and her family were pressured into signing an unfair contract quickly, without consulting a lawyer, and then were subject to "three and a half years of exploitation and lies," according to her suit. Filed Wednesday, it seeks unspecified damages.
While she made $5,115 per episode, she wasn't paid or was grossly undercompensated for at least 160 extra hours of recording work, and at least 400 hours of promotions, marketing and interviews, her lawsuit said. While traveling the country to talk up the show, she got only $40 a day, it said.
She also wasn't paid her due share of profits from Dora merchandise and her residuals, or rerun fees, for at least 325 airings of her "Dora" episodes – even as Nickelodeon executives told her she'd played a big role in the show's success, according to her lawsuit. One said there had never been "a more high-profile face to a voice," the lawsuit said."
I can't judge if she has a legitimate lawsuit or not, but it looks like she was treated poorly from this article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20101007/us-dora-the-explorer-lawsuit/ _________________ Best regards,
Tom Test
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7977 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Dumb parents, dumb Nikelodeon, happy lawyers.
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JBarrett M&M

Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2043 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Dora explores the judicial system. Pity. _________________ Justin S. Barrett
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Moe Egan 4 Large

Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 4339 Location: Live Free or Die
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:23 am Post subject: |
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And the take away from this, so we're all on the same page and able to bring our careers to the next level -
Caveat Vox _________________ Moe Egan
i want to be the voice in your head.
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Mike Sommer A Hundred Dozen

Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 1222 Location: Boss Angeles
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Teen voice of 'Dora The Explorer" sues Nickelodeon |
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Tom Test wrote: |
I can't judge if she has a legitimate lawsuit or not, but it looks like she was treated poorly from this article |
It sounds like there were at least 3 adults in that room looking out for her well being; her parent and the agent. And they failed. Nick did nothing wrong, they simply offered the lowest fee possible, and mom, dad and the agent saw dollars and accepted the offer under duress.
1) Do not sign anything under duress, and if you do be prepared to accept the consequences.
2) If you go to a network to sign a contract- bring your lawyer and your agent. Have your lawyer there anyway. (And taking a lesson form the McCourts'/Dodgers case, if it is a multi page document, initial each page, or better yet each paragraph. (Your millage may vary, see your lawyer))
3) If someone says you have to agree and sign a document without being abel read and understand it without counsel. Walk away! And tell them you're going to take it to your lawyer anyway.
The shameful part, if true, is that if Nick welched on the pittance of the agreement, then Nick should have the screws put to them. _________________ The Blog:
http://voiceoveraudio.blogspot.com/
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Michael Schoen Backstage Pass

Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 443 Location: New York City
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: |
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This is a bad lawsuit on so many levels.
1. No one could have known how successful "Dora the Explorer" would be. Both parties signed the deal with eyes wide open.
2. Now that the deal is done, 14 year old Caitlin could try to add on to her career based on her initial success -- but instead chose to litigate.
3. You cannot believe the claims in a lawsuit -- lawyers go wide at the start.
I expect Nick will settle -- so she'll get a few more bucks -- but the process is bound to be painful...and could hamper her future efforts so she will have peaked at the age of 14.
In terms of "promises" made -- if it's not in the contract it will be hard to prove.
Do you really think they were "under duress" when they signed? I suspect they were thrilled to do it. _________________ http://MichaelSchoen.com |
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craigcrumpton Been Here Awhile
Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Michael Schoen wrote: | 1. No one could have known how successful "Dora the Explorer" would be. Both parties signed the deal with eyes wide open. | I realize I'm nitpicking here, but Caitlin Sanchez wasn't cast as Dora until 2007, I believe. Katherine Herles was the original voice -- voices.com did an interview with her last year:
http://blogs.voices.com/voxdaily/2009/03/kathleen_herles_original_voice.html
The show was already hugely popular worldwide when Sanchez was in negotiations to take over the role, so I would say the blame lies on Sanchez' parents and the agent who agreed on the terms of the contract.
Unfortunately, Sanchez probably won't get anything out of the lawsuit, except maybe a settlement at best that's a pittance of what the role was worth if it had been negotiated under a standard union contract. _________________ Publisher: Voice Actors in the News
Host: Viva VO Atlanta! (on VU and Facebook for VO peeps in the Southeast US) |
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Michael Schoen Backstage Pass

Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 443 Location: New York City
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Craig,
I don't think you are nitpicking -- I wasn't aware it was the second Dora.
Nonetheless -- I am sure they were falling all over themselves to get the gig -- and now that it's over, they are raising objection.
Totally agree parents should have had someone smart look at the deal -- but I am guessing if they asked for too much, there would have been a different Dora... and it was and will always be a buyer's market. _________________ http://MichaelSchoen.com |
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craigcrumpton Been Here Awhile
Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, Sanchez was essentially being hired non-union for a soundalike gig, and if the agent/parents had held out for residuals and such, Nick would have kept looking until they found someone to work for *their* price.
And I would have personally been overjoyed with $5100 per episode for a soundalike, although the role was worth so much more than that. But I still would have had lawyers scrutinize the contract terms and maybe even gotten a different agent to negotiate if need be. _________________ Publisher: Voice Actors in the News
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Michael Schoen Backstage Pass

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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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We agree Craig.
Sometimes you think you are worth X and you agent tells you the market will only bear Y. The agent is usually right. _________________ http://MichaelSchoen.com |
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7977 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:58 am Post subject: |
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As I read this article, an agent was not brought in to the process. The better/smarter production companies insist on talent getting an agent just to avoid problems like this. Even though it costs them more initially, it saves their bacon later as in this brouhaha.
A handshake and a smile have a higher potential for failure the higher the dollar figures get in any business.
Speaking of "child" stars succeeding through agents, Angus T. Jones, who plays the "half" on the show Two and a Half Men, just cut a deal for $300,000 an episode (x26) for two years, plus a half million dollar signing bonus. He's now 17.
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
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Michael Schoen Backstage Pass

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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Plus Angus will be getting checks for years as the show plays 5 days a week in syndication.
It's always good to be a cast member in a long running show.
Some years ago we were looking at houses in L-A -- and came across a nice one in the Hollywood Hills, not far from where we actually ended up. Views included the Hollywood sign. Typical multi level decks and a pool.
But the layout was a little strange and the rooms too small for our outsized furniture.
But something was strange. Pictures of Tony Danza and Judy Lite were everywhere along with other cast members from "Who's the Boss."
Turns out the guy selling the home was one of the original creators of that successful sitcom and he was moving back home to Massachusetts -- and out of Hollywood he had made so much money. _________________ http://MichaelSchoen.com |
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Mike Sommer A Hundred Dozen

Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 1222 Location: Boss Angeles
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject: Dora the Extorter!!! |
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Now she's breaking out the baseball bat/
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/10/12/2010-10-12_dora_the_explorer_voice_caitlin_sanchez_sets_deadline_for_nickelodeon_to_reach_c.html
It kind of serves Viacom and other Studio executives right for paying unconscionably huge loads of cash and perks to hire Big Name Celebrities to appear in their feature animated cartoon, instead of using real Professional Voice Talent for their Star Character roles.
But I still think she a bit of a whiner: Her contract is not usual for a regular TV animation Day Player. And those promotional junkets are catered from start to finish. It's like an all expense paid, working vacation, with fine rooms, food and handlers. _________________ The Blog:
http://voiceoveraudio.blogspot.com/
Acoustics are counter-intuitive. If one thing is certain about acoustics, it is that if anything seems obvious it is probably wrong. |
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