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Frank F · Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:09 pm Post subject:

Google's "Studio" is simply a version of webRTC. It is an offshoot of their push for better communication.

I have a private interface for webRTC I call "Janguhl" which is a higher level of Studio's offering and has record features among other items which make it very desirable. I will shoot you a link if you wish. Just give me a few days as I am out of town for my birthday.

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Ed Fisher · Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:59 am Post subject:

Lee Gordon · Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:21 am Post subject:

Lots of choices may be good to have on a salad bar, but I am wondering if the sheer number of potential alternatives to ISDN described in just this thread may be too much of a good thing. When Source Connect was the only contender, it became the de facto choice, despite its flaws. With four or five options fragmenting the marketplace, it is quite possible that none of them will take hold.
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Ed Fisher · Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:37 am Post subject:

georgethetech · Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:55 pm Post subject:

Soundstreak has been giving it away to everybody for several years now.
It hasn't helped all that much with uptake yet. I'll do a Google Hangouts vs Source Connect test on Whittam's World soon. I believe John Taylor is using Luci Live with g.722 successfully so far, more testing needed. Latency issues in SC are mainly due to the somewhat crippled feature set of SCStandard, it's a nonissue with SCPro.
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Ed Fisher · Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:40 pm Post subject:

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GWIII · Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:20 am Post subject:

I still think that the ISDN Revolution won't happen until Verizon, AT&T, et al, say "We're done supporting this." Because it's more than just recording studios that depend on ISDN, it's TV stations too. Until that happens, ISDN is going to be around. Verizon may have gotten the ball rolling in the Northeast, but it hasn't taken hold. THe point about following the mony is absolutely correct: the carriers are making bank by charging as much as they do for ISDN, and there is no comparable solution that has become standardized. When they stop making money on it, it will go away.
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Diane Maggipinto · Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:59 am Post subject:

jen, thanks for your post. i thought i was going crazy trying to figure out the navigation around google hangout etc for our newly-formed stand-up (which hasn't happened yet because of issues you outlined. we had big fail yesterday morning).
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FinMac · Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:02 am Post subject: Soundstreak or Source connect?

Just got back from a gig in Helsinki at my favorite studio Smile

Spoke with the engineer about Soundstreak. The idea of a token was a non-starter with him.

The studio has ISDN and Source Connect. They use SC because you cannot get an ISDN line in Sweden anymore!

He told me that he sometimes uses Skype and that can work well.

We will try a Soundstreak test before then end of the month if it works out.

But if Soundstreak hopes to replace ISDN then they better come up with something else than the Token system.

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Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta

Oh...and what's the deal with Google Hangouts? Ever since they've adopted that I have not been able to use it. People try to call me, and I hear an alert and see some pop up boxes, but when I click on that or my Google Talk Chrome plug in or anything Google-ly, I can't open up the conversation. And, I'm on Google Plus. Seriously, I have G+ and my GMail open on Chrome tabs and can't get Hangouts to work.

This forced me to stop using my Google 'phone' number and buy a dedicated Skype number. Skype is pretty sweet. I get media producers from around the world messaging me directly now and then saying "Hey, what do you charge, would you read this???" And yeah, most of them have become repeat clients.

Somehow they have to fix the SS Token system...because the product is terrific.
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Jen Gosnell · Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:27 am Post subject:

Yeah, I swear with Google it's like you have to have some super tunnel vision which magically points you to the exactly correct text-based link which will then, when clicked on, include a path to the hangout among the several subsequently-available paths you could choose, and you may further hope that your special tunnel-vision powers are still fully functioning so that you may discern your next appropriate click - which, if you are lucky, could lead you to the super-secret hangout page. Maybe.

Or, if you're like me, the first ten times you use it you visually search the screen or dialog for a full thirty seconds while thinking the whole time, "WTF??!?"

There are some tricks I've learned so that I finally almost always succeed in scheduling/joining a hangout without hassle, but it is not intuitive at all. And I did still feel compelled to say almost always. Lips Are Sealed

Flexibility can be a blessing and a curse. Sometimes with google I think it leans too far toward the latter.
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Diane Maggipinto · Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:45 am Post subject:

i was able to connect with amy taylor and moe this morning ... via a chat box and mic, but no video (which is fine - i was up at 5 to meet bangalore deadlines). still the missing link prevails ... and i **think** i mean that literally.

{{shrugs shoulders}}

and now, baaaaaack to soundstreak!
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Lee Gordon · Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:57 am Post subject:

These ISDN replacement discussions always remind me of the "vision of the future" videos from the 50s and 60s that predicted we'd all be taking our nutrition in the form of pills and Tang-like beverages, or the ballyhoo that accompanied such miracle products as polyester double-knit clothes and Corfam shoes in the 70s.
Just because a new technology exists, doesn't mean people are going to adopt it. If we were at ground zero with regard to ISDN-like capability, any one of these new products would have a fighting chance to emerge as the standard. But ISDN is already the standard that the studios have invested in. And Source Connect has established itself as the clear second choice alternative. Producers would need to have a compelling reason to abandon that investment, and "it's the new thing" is not that reason.
They are not going to want to give up what is already in place, any more than people were willing to give up real food or cotton and wool clothing.
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