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sdelgo · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: Warmth

Alot of the discussion here has been about getting that "warm sound"
A $10,000 vocal chain can get the job done but if that is not in your budget... an aural exciter is another way of getting a nice thick sound.

An aural exciter basically boosts the input harmonics and not the amplitude like an eq does, so there is no need to worry about boosting the overall signal.

I'll post an AB soon so you can judge for yourself.

Aphex makes nice unit.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/204/

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Jeffrey Kafer · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject:

can someone explain exactly what "warmth" is?

I know it's hot topic, but I'm trying to keep a cool head about it.
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todd ellis · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject:

Jeff you answered your own question:

hot topic + cool head = warmth

well - it woulda sounded better if i'd said it in latin ...
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Jeffrey Kafer · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject:

I ask because I got a new preamp that uses a tube for a supposedly "warm" sound and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be hearing....
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Yoda117 · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject:

a small bit of distortion that fuzzes up the bottom.

at least that's what I've always heard when listening to "warm" preamps, mics, etc.
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Jeffrey Kafer · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject:

distortion, what?
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Deirdre · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject:

Around here "warm" rhymes with "bomb".

Just thought I'd throw that in.
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Frank F · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject:

Warm: a smooth unencumbered sound with comfortable bass, mids, and highs.

I have always said warm is not too much bass or low end, with a smooth "real" sound. Lots of "presense" and no noticible or transient highs.

Listen to a nice Neumann U-87 Gold and you will know "warm".

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ConnieTerwilliger · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject:

Deirdre · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject:

Well, 'round here "harm" rhymes with "farm", only without the "R".
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Jeffrey Kafer · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject:

"Hom"?
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Deirdre · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject:

Yep, mostly.
Harm is like "hahm"
"Warm" os is more like "wawm."

What can I tell you? The native way of saying "Berwick" is a cross between "BEER-wick" and "Buick"

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asnively · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:07 am Post subject:

I love New England.
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Yoda117 · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:33 am Post subject:

Frank F · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 7:57 am Post subject:

The differences are more than "skin deep" between the Ai, Standard (Classic) U 87, and the U 87 Gold from Neuman. Mainly the transformers in each are somewhat different, other components in the microphones are also unique.

I own both the Classic AND the Gold. Each has a different sound with the same settings on pre-amps, etc.... I like the Gold better due to it's higher quality components and sound.

GP (Greg Phelps) has a new microphone which the manufacturer uses the old style of microphone making - one-at-a-time, and by hand. At a third of the cost of a U 87, this microphone has the warmth and presense of the Neuman's. GP is going through a little metamorphasis and needs your support now, so drop him an email or PM - and ask about the quality of this microphone, you will be surprised with the sound from this product. You might end up buying one for yourself.

Remeber, warmth and presense are usually synonymous. Distortion is never the answer.

Toodles

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