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tackerman The Gates of Troy

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 1741 Location: in the ether
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: VO, patience & persistence |
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I've been at this for a few years now and everything I read starting out said it takes a few years (at least) to get established. Now that I'm finally seeing some of the seeds I sowed early on start to take root it's interesting to look back on just how impatient I was to get going and how impatient I can still be at times.
Talking to folks fresh into the industry reminds me of how long it takes... how persistent you have to be... how much you have to want it and just how much blood sweat and tears you've got to put into your biz to get it off the ground. (Have I used enough cliches yet?)
I guess my point is... patience & persistence pay off in the long run. But it can be an agonizing wait, no?
Just wanted to thank not only DB for hosting this great community but all the great & helpful folks that make it just that. |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Patience, and persistence for sure.
Some of the agony is from our brethren and sistern here kicking our asses.
Glad you came to the party and stayed, Tom. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Drew King's Row

Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1118 Location: Tumbleweed Junction, The Republic of North Texas
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I still agonize over the feast or famine aspect of our biz. _________________ www.voiceoverdrew.com
Skype: andrew.hadwal1
Although I have a full head of hair, I'm quite ribald. |
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bobsouer Frequent Flyer

Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 9883 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Tom,
Thanks for the fresh reminder to stick to it. _________________ Be well,
Bob Souer (just think of lemons)
The second nicest guy in voiceover.
+1-724-613-2749
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KaraEdwards M&M

Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 2374 Location: Behind a mic or camera, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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I had a VO gig today where a lady was doing her first character VO on the same project. Waiting to start, she mentioned her frustration at how slow things have been the last 2 months. I explained that everyone of us has ebbs and flows with the work...you just have to enjoy the up times and use the down times to better your craft.
Thanks for the words of inspiration Tom! _________________ Threadjackers local 420
Kara Edwards
http://www.karaedwards.com
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COURVO Even Taller Than He Seems On TV

Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 1569 Location: Vegas, Baby!
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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You've got seeds taking root? I never tried the Burpee marketing technique.
That must be why I'm getting weeds!
Thanks, Tom...for the inspiring words.
courVO _________________ Dave Courvoisier - Las Vegas, NV
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Courvo's "Voice Acting in Vegas" Blog: http://www.CourVO.biz
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roger King's Row

Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 1064 Location: Central Kentucky
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Lizden A Zillion

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 8864 Location: The dark recesses of my mind
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Well said Tom!!!!
Liz _________________ Liz de Nesnera O.A.V. ~ Livin' The VO Dream!
English/French Bilingual VO w/ ISDN
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Diane Maggipinto Spreading Snark Worldwide

Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 6679 Location: saul lay seetee youtee
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: |
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keep on sowing!
kara said: Quote: | Waiting to start, she mentioned her frustration at how slow things have been the last 2 months. |
and a friend of mine who started her business (entirely different than ours) advised me long ago to always be positive and never to show your cards if things are tough or if you just want to vent.
not pretty.
and, a positive attitude results in positive things. universal vibes, i think. _________________ sitting at #8, though not as present as I'd like to be. Hello!
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todd ellis A Zillion

Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 10531 Location: little egypt
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universal vibes ... yes, that. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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Brett Mason Backstage Pass

Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 491 Location: Tidy Town, NC
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: |
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...wise words....all........just call me The Blue Boy (holdin' it in, holding it in')...
 _________________ Brett
"Dare to be Yourself" - André Gide
Merry Merchants of Voice Over!
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Rob Ellis M&M

Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Great post, Tom.
I was in radio for 10 years. It wasn't until around year 5 that I started working for what I considered to be "good" stations, that is, stations that my friends and acquaintances were actually familiar with.
As a realtor, it was about 5 years before I was making pretty good money.
I'm thinking that 5 years is a pretty realistic time frame, although there are never any guarantees, and sometimes things happen sooner.
The great speaker Patricia Fripp http://www.fripp.com/meetingplanners.html
says "overnight success usually takes about 15 years" |
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tackerman The Gates of Troy

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 1741 Location: in the ether
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Rellis wrote: | says "overnight success usually takes about 15 years" |
Hadn't heard that one... it's great. Thanks Rob. |
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voicy1stef The Gates of Troy

Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 1799 Location: Lovely Hertfordshire, England
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the advice Tom & Company. These are encouraging words that I really needed to hear!
Onward and upward now...dust myself off, carry on!
big hug to all.....  _________________ Intuit and do it!
British-American voice artist based in England for the past umpteen years. I say, has it really been that long!
http://www.stefsvoice4u.co.uk
Podcast: Positive Affirmations and Audio Stories, on iTunes, Spotify etc. |
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TheVoiceOfBob 14th Avenue

Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 1411 Location: Pittsburgher in the Carolinas
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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I think just about everyone that makes the decision to get into 'the biz' have all had those pains.
You always believe that you are 'good enough' to be one of those that won't take so long to make an impression. You hear all those stories and say to yourself, "Yeah, you maybe, but not me. I have experience in blah and blah, oh I've also done a lot of blah work, so I'm ready to start counting those sacks of money right now!"
Then it starts to set in. Wow, it DOES take time, effort, persistence. If you are one of those that can really recognize that and still have the drive to continue on, then you have passed that first test. Many more to come. _________________ Try to imagine a world where there is no such thing as hypothetical situations.
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