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Bruce
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject: Tips on submitting a successful audition Reply with quote

I'm in the process of finding an animated character for a client's TV commercials and so I put the job up on the Work section here. Knowing that this was a fairly choosy client I thought I'd better expand my search and also went to V123 for the first time in about a year.

First let me say the VO-BB auditioners as a group are superior to the other group. I was able to choose 4 out of 15 VO-BBers to submit to the client, and got just 4 out of 55 people who auditioned on V123.

I will say the rating system V123 offers producers ("seekers") is a bit daunting considering I wear both hats. I started to rate people and then realized I'd be forever marking these people's permanent records Exclamation, and it felt kinda creepy, so I stopped and just listened.

O.K., after listening to 70 auditions, let me be so bold as to offer tips on improving one's chances of making the cut. This applies more to several of the people that came through V123 as opposed to the pros from VO-BB by the way, but maybe there's something here that will inspire you:

Read the producer's comments on what they want and try to apply them to your audition. I know this sounds obvious, but in my description I used phrases like: "animated character, young, a talking sunbeam, not particularly feminine, young in spirit, perky". I couldn't believe how many audtioners used their everyday announcer voices. Not animated, not a character, not young or perky at all. Some of the women turned their femininity UP a notch instead of down.

What's with all the booping and beeping? A handful of auditions had two or three beeps in front of each take, just like they used to do 40 years ago when things were run live from tape (they'd cue things up by counting the beeps). Today it sounds just plain silly. It doesn't help.

If you feel you've got to watermark your audition, don't make it a really annoying noise. I heard a variety of beeps, boops, stop watches, crickets, music tones...some of them so loud it really ruined the audition.

Radio and ex-radio people, please turn down the compression. If you're doing a screaming car commercial demo, sure, leave it up, but it really takes away from what you really sound like on anything else. If your voice sounds like it's all squished into a piece of plastic tubing, that just isn't very appealing.

Make sure your audition's audio quality is good. A number of folks sounded like they were using $20 Radio Shack mics (tinny, no low end, popping the mic), yet their generic demo sounded all nicely produced. I heard lots of room noise on some and computer fans on others. Your audio has to sound technically professional if you want producers to trust that any audio they get from you will be usable.

I hope this helps anyone who needs it. The rest of you, you're sounding great!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The takeaway? Skip V123 and just come to us. We got your back. Smile
Love to know who the 4 were from here you submitted, but that might not be appropriate.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A number of folks sounded like they were using $20 Radio Shack mics


i had the exact same experience two weeks ago as a seeker on V123 --- so much so on one audition - i thought someone was playing a joke on me ... it was like fred & whatsername from another thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Tips on submitting a successful audition Reply with quote

Bruce wrote:


Radio and ex-radio people, please turn down the compression. If you're doing a screaming car commercial demo, sure, leave it up, but it really takes away from what you really sound like on anything else. If your voice sounds like it's all squished into a piece of plastic tubing, that just isn't very appealing.


Thank you. I've been saying the same thing as of late. Between that and all the folks who want to track their levels at -2dB. The standard is -12 - 14dB for a reason (and some of us track softer than that). If you can't tell... invest in a pair of outboard VU meters. It's worth the $.

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Make sure your audition's audio quality is good. A number of folks sounded like they were using $20 Radio Shack mics (tinny, no low end, popping the mic), yet their generic demo sounded all nicely produced. I heard lots of room noise on some and computer fans on others. Your audio has to sound technically professional if you want producers to trust that any audio they get from you will be usable.


If I may be so bold... was than an overall issue, or did you find that more with the VO-BB, or the other site? If I had to take a guess I'd say it's more of an issue with the other site based on the stuff I've heard on their forums. It's an awesome point none the less, and a good reason that some of the folks on here and elsewhere go to such pains with their studio setups.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce:

I "second" your emotion (My Man, Smokey!).

Every audition I do...via agents or, direct...I send out technically perfect and, craft-wise, to the specs asked for. My thought process...I do the audition as if IT IS the final product!

And, if I don't think I can meet the requirements of the read, I don't do it!

Just my 2 cents...Mitch
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reminders Bruce. It was very thoughtful of you to take the time to post this for all...'specially for them to whom it applies. Yer Swell! Rolls Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TigerMitch wrote:

Every audition I do...via agents or, direct...I send out technically perfect and, craft-wise, to the specs asked for. My thought process...I do the audition as if IT IS the final product!



I always find it amazing how many people think that they'll do just fine by putting forth their second best in an audition.

your competition isn't, so why would you?

More to the point, you're putting forth your second best. Don't they know that second place is the first loser?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great info, Bruce...thanks!

I'd like to think a higher quality comes out of the VO-BB entries 'cause the chatter here leads to technically smarter, creatively more talented, and pragmatically more prepared auditioners than the average bear.

YMMV... but I'm proud to be here, and I think it's made a big difference in my approach to the biz.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed Dave.

Thanks Bruce for the window into the seeker side of things.

I may not read the instructions when I buy a new electronic toy, but I do read the requirements for a job audition. Sunny, young, perky not me on most days and DEFINITELY not during allergy season.

Now if anyone needs a phlegmy, COPD sounding voice, hurry up, I'll only be this way another week or so.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bruce!
What a great reminder! Thanks for taking the time to post this...should be required reading for audition newbies...and a great refresher for working VOs! Laugh

And Mitch....
TigerMitch wrote:
...I do the audition as if IT IS the final product!


Yeah...like...DUH!
You'd think that would be the norm....but I guess not! Mello

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce... Very good comparisons and observations.

I was one that wanted to send you a clip... through the VO-BB... but after I tried 3 or 4 times I realized that it just didn't sound like what you were looking for. Perhaps a few of those from V123 just audition for everything that comes down the Pike... not knowing that they are wasting their time AND the clients time.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Tips on submitting a successful audition Reply with quote

Yoda117 wrote:
Between that and all the folks who want to track their levels at -2dB. The standard is -12 - 114dB for a reason (and some of us track softer than that).

Did you know that awhile back V123 sent an email out to all their members asking them to normalize to -2?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is RIDICULOUS since their system completely overloads the audio anyway and makes everything sound a bit icky.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Bruce, and thank you gang for caring to send the very best.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Tips on submitting a successful audition Reply with quote

asnively wrote:
Did you know that awhile back V123 sent an email out to all their members asking them to normalize to -2?


You shouldn't normalize at all. Record at the correct volume from the start.
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